JGR: Stewart Wrecks #11 Denny Hamlin

You're twisting everything...how freakin hard would it have been to PASS him? They do it at EVERY RACE...passing is a part of the sport...but I guess Tony is too good to leave his line. HAHAHA. 100% tony's fault. No other way of looking at this.

Keep in mind that bumping is just as much a part of the sport...especially when it involves a teammate. In fact, Kyle Busch complained that he didn't win because his teammates didn't bump-draft him at the end.

Keep in mind that bumping is just as much a part of the sport...especially when it involves a teammate. In fact, Kyle Busch complained that he didn't win because his teammates didn't bump-draft him at the end.

What do you know about that kind of stuff? How many hours a year do you put into watching NASCAR? 2000? You act like it's your job or something.

You have to be willing to listen to the other side Jsarno, instead of constantly ridiculing it. It doesn't seem that you want to though


smoot, after listening to you.... and SEEING the race. What other side is there? I think? at least some of the people know something about racing that are posting on this thread, from what I've read.

You've been doing your NASCAR job for however long.....not to throw age into this,( because often that doesn't mean jack) but I've been involved with NASCAR/STOCK CAR RACING for alot longer than yourself, just due to I'm quite a bit older than yourself and I understand it well.

Do you really believe TS was NOT at fault?

smoot, after listening to you.... and SEEING the race. What other side is there? I think? at least some of the people know something about racing that are posting on this thread, from what I've read.

You've been doing your NASCAR job for however long.....not to throw age into this,( because often that doesn't mean jack) but I've been involved with NASCAR/STOCK CAR RACING for alot longer than yourself, just due to I'm quite a bit older than yourself and I understand it well.

Do you really believe TS was NOT at fault?

He already said in a reply to you on page 3:

Tony Stewart is most probably at fault for the crash on Sunday. I'll cede that. I still think Hamlin may have slowed up a bit but whatever.

You have to be willing to listen to the other side Jsarno, instead of constantly ridiculing it. It doesn't seem that you want to though

Umm, it's either Stewarts fault, or it isn't. I've heard the side of the story of "it's not", but everyone that says it is a Stewart fan. Using the laws of the road, and physics, it's tony's fault. You even admitted it likely is his fault.
You can always look at an orange and say it's purple, but it's the common sense part that takes over and tells you..."No, that's orange". This is one of those cases. It's not hard to figure out at all, the whole world saw him ram Hamlin.
Keep in mind that Stewart was also in "the draft", so he will of course go faster than Hamlin due to less wind resistance.

Please, tell me this...why in the world did he not slow down, or pass him?

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smoot, after listening to you.... and SEEING the race. What other side is there? I think? at least some of the people know something about racing that are posting on this thread, from what I've read.

You've been doing your NASCAR job for however long.....not to throw age into this,( because often that doesn't mean jack) but I've been involved with NASCAR/STOCK CAR RACING for alot longer than yourself, just due to I'm quite a bit older than yourself and I understand it well.

Do you really believe TS was NOT at fault?

I do know that there are plenty of people who know about racing posting on this thread. But I also know that there are plenty that don't really know. I also know that there are plenty of people that are basing their decisions on their preconceived notions of Tony Stewart. Or at least letting those notions severely influence their judgment.

I can't really argue the point of what kind of people Stewart and Hamlin truly are when the cameras aren't rolling or the type of teammates they are because all I can offer is my own personal encounters with the two. People want to believe that Stewart is a jerk then what can I do about it. I know what he is really like (so do his teammates) and I also know that he shouldn't have said what he said.

Now, as someone who understands NASCAR, then you certainly understand the points I've made several times-that just because a lead driver is bumped from behind doesn't mean that's a bad thing, that it's extremely dangerous to attempt a bump-draft on a corner, that Stewart has been one of the most vocal drivers against bump-drafting on the corner, that either Stewart sped up too fast too soon or Hamlin slowed down. And that both are great drivers with nothing to gain from wrecking. Someone obviously messed up. And it was probably Stewart. Especially when you consider that he knew Hamlin's car was running tight.

I suspect they were going to do a bump-draft on the upcoming straightaway. Though, in my opinion, that'd be way too early in the race.

But the point is that to the average fan it's natural to see a crash and say well the person who made the initial hit must be at fault. And that a hit is a bad thing. But, as you well know, that's not always the case.

I've definitely learned a lot about NASCAR and its intricacies, and I thought maybe I'd share some of that with those that don't have the same information and access to that information. But if people don't care to hear it, I'll gladly stop talking about it.

Someone obviously messed up. And it was probably Stewart. Especially when you consider that he knew Hamlin's car was running tight.

Good enough for me...this thread has gone VERY stale. The same things are being said over and over again, and we're not getting anywhere.
Enjoy guys.

He already said in a reply to you on page 3:


That was a general response, not to me, but who cares. I didn't scroll back multipule pages......but there you have it....!

What other side needs to be seen? I don't get your point on viewing the other side. You just said TS was at FAULT!


Which is 100% correct. There is no other side.

http://www.boastingrights.com/mike/tonystewart.jpg

Oh, I forgot to comment on this:

LOL..that's funny.