Iraq: Who Has the Right Plan?

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dmek25
07-29-2007, 03:19 PM
beems, great post, and i agree. and i laugh about bush and the illegals. he doesn't say a peep about any of this until 6 years into his presidency. he sees his popularity numbers dip into all time lows, and figures he had better do something. those illegals should have to go thru the same process that my great grandfather, and yours, had to. i don't understand the thinking of handing them a free pass?

70Chip
07-29-2007, 09:30 PM
Beem, sorry you were disappointed with what Republican dominance looked like. This is what Democratic dominance looks like:

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jsarno
07-30-2007, 12:46 AM
Dem's are the only ones that will sell you down the river? all politicians, when put in a position for their own gains, will agree to anything. i think the biggest reason people agreed to invade Iraq was it would pretty much be political suicide if you disagree( at that time) and you say that bush has gotten over 90% of the terrorists, you have got to be joking? where in the world did you come up with that? for every terrorist that has been captured, or killed, there are 10 more waiting in the wings.

My bad, I meant 90% of the most wanted terrorists.

jsarno
07-30-2007, 12:47 AM
Dem's are the only ones that will sell you down the river? all politicians, when put in a position for their own gains, will agree to anything. i think the biggest reason people agreed to invade Iraq was it would pretty much be political suicide if you disagree( at that time) and you say that bush has gotten over 90% of the terrorists, you have got to be joking? where in the world did you come up with that? for every terrorist that has been captured, or killed, there are 10 more waiting in the wings.

So if there are 10 more waiting in the wings, don't you think we should try to stop them somehow?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
07-30-2007, 02:08 AM
those illegals should have to go thru the same process that my great grandfather, and yours, had to. i don't understand the thinking of handing them a free pass?

Something about that statement doesn't seem right. My forefathers endured harship, so I want to see others have to as well.

dmek25
07-30-2007, 07:36 AM
So if there are 10 more waiting in the wings, don't you think we should try to stop them somehow?
so the united states, fighting in Iraq, is stopping all terrorists? there will always be terrorism in this world we live in

Beemnseven
07-30-2007, 10:38 AM
70chip, what do you expect from San Fransisco?

Seriously though, you can't take this example and make representative of all democrats, or their collective 'values' -- anymore than Mark Foley or Ted Haggard are indicative of republican 'values'.

FRPLG
07-30-2007, 11:07 AM
70chip, what do you expect from San Fransisco?

Seriously though, you can't take this example and make representative of all democrats, or their collective 'values' -- anymore than Mark Foley or Ted Haggard are indicative of republican 'values'.

I gotta agree with Beem there. It is this dividing up and villifying the other "side" that has our system broken. Yeah there are cooky Dems. And there are nutso Reps too. Crazy doesn't discriminate based on party affiliation. Both parties have strong elements who have totally thrown true values out, in terms of social values and political values. That's why there isn't a one of them that you can trust right now.

jsarno
07-30-2007, 04:33 PM
so the united states, fighting in Iraq, is stopping all terrorists? there will always be terrorism in this world we live in

DId i say that they were fighting ALL terrorists by being in Iraq?
If we ignored Hitler, we would be in trouble right now (probably speaking german), if we ignore the terrorists, they will kill us.
To not fight them would be a mistake.

dmek25
07-30-2007, 05:43 PM
i didn't say don't fight them. what i said is being in Iraq serves absolutely no purpose. if you think because of us fighting in Iraq, the terrorists will not strike in the United States, you are just kidding yourself. the more i think about this administrations plan of attack, the more i think that they really didn't have one

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