Does prayer work?

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SUNRA
09-12-2007, 07:37 PM
I was taught that history is best qualified to answer our questions in the present. I can testify that without my African ancestors who have passed on and prayed for a better future and without those prayers to God there is no way African Americans would be physically freed from bondage which is consistent with all people who have experienced tragedy and triumph.

saden1
09-13-2007, 01:30 AM
I was taught that history is best qualified to answer our questions in the present. I can testify that without my African ancestors who have passed on and prayed for a better future and without those prayers to God there is no way African Americans would be physically freed from bondage which is consistent with all people who have experienced tragedy and triumph.

I am really amazed as why any African American would choose to be a Christian in light of a) what Christianity has to say about slavery and b) the forceful conversion of salves to Christianity.

I give not once cent of credit for the abolishment of slavery to prayer or god. All credit goes to a) Abraham Lincoln for freeing the salves and paying a heavy price for it b) white abolishionists for understanding how wrong slavery was and taking action c) and African Americans both slaves and free men for their struggles to be free.

Old Testament:
Leviticus 25:44-46 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2025:44-46&version=9;)
Exodus 21:7-1 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus%2021:7-11;&version=9;)

New Testament:
Ephesians 6:5 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206:5;&version=49;)
1 Timothy 6:1-4 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%206:1-4;&version=49;)

Give where credit is due!!!

p.s. I don't mean to make the debate about religion but I have very strong feelings about the subject of slavery as it relates to religion.

Sammy Baugh Fan
09-13-2007, 08:18 AM
This Thread got Totally Jacked.

peace and prayers to you all
mike
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Crazyhorse1
09-13-2007, 09:28 AM
Well said, well said.

Even adults need imaginary friends.

Sammy Baugh Fan
09-13-2007, 12:52 PM
And finally the answer:
If you don't believe in God: Prayer does NOT work.
If you do believe in God: Yes, Prayer Works Great!

Have a great day folks
peace

firstdown
09-13-2007, 02:35 PM
All prayers are answered. We just don't always like the answer.
Well, then I'd like to know who got my million dollars as I did not get the million I prayed for.

Crazyhorse1
09-13-2007, 09:52 PM
Well, then I'd like to know who got my million dollars as I did not get the million I prayed for.

How about those six million people murdered in Nazi prison camps. Why didn't any of them pray?

Really,truly, believing that an all powerful supernatural being that's a lot smarter than you are can be convinced by your groveling to change his mind about anything important is the height of arrogance and vanity. To even entertain the notion that he cares whether you pray to him or not is to give yourself almost equal standing with Him, He doesn't need for you to tell or ask him anything. He has already planned everything and/or knows what's going to happen and should happen until the end of time, if he exists? Do you think you know something he doesn't? Have you lost it? You have no rational reason to believe that you know anything at all.
The chances of you being right about God or the afterlife, etc. is zip, zero. Maybe not that good.

Sammy Baugh Fan
09-13-2007, 10:57 PM
Ok Mr Horse,
Let's say I'm wrong about God.
Well, I lived a life "trying" to be better and live by a high standard and I'm just dead. Heck yer just dead too and it's all over.

If you are wrong and there is a God..you have rejected Him. I'll be in Heaven with God and you'll be in eternal Hell away from God.

What if yer wrong?

Like I said I won't debate but I will make the end results clear.
Take another look my brother.

peace and Hail Skins cus this is a Skins board
mike

MTK
09-13-2007, 11:36 PM
If there really is a God, would he really turn one of us away for questioning his existence? That's not a God I'd want to be with any way.

70Chip
09-14-2007, 05:30 AM
If there really is a God, would he really turn one of us away for questioning his existence? That's not a God I'd want to be with any way.


I don't think God would turn his back on one who in the course of honestly seeking the truth encountered doubts. To question is to be human. In the New Testament it says "...seek and ye shall find, knock and the door shall be opened unto you." It's really not a question of God turning away from us as much as it is us turning away from God.

For me the whole point of this life is to seek God, everything else is secondary. (Laughter is a very close second. Laughter and the Redskins)

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