Canadian Healthcare from a Canadian...

45 million uninsured and the president vetoed the SCHIP bill which would have covered poor children. SCHIP would have covered kids 200 percent above the poverty line...basically a family of 3 making 34K a year (that's pretty damn poor if you ask me).

Our system doesn't work for the poor.
The 200% is the current plan for another thing and the the new plan could have included children up to 21 years old in a 4 family house hold making over 80,000 a year I'll post a link.

Here's a good link abou the bill and look who supports it, Health Ins Co., big business and others.
Timothy P. Carney: Does SCHIP insure kids or subsidize savvy HMOs? - Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/a-972917~Timothy_P__Carney__Does_SCHIP_insure_kids_o r_subsidize_savvy_HMOs_.html)

Our system doesn't work for the poor.

That's really too broad a statement. There are Millions upon millions of "poor" people that have health coverage through their full time jobs. And there are millions that have government assitance that are poor. So it really does work for the poor, but there are plenty that are left out due whatever reason. I'm middle class (possibly even upper middle) and I haven't had healthcare for the past 4 or 5 months. I will have new healthcare in 1 month though due to a new full time job. It's not just "the poor". It comes down to what people are willing to spend. I chose to pay my bills rather than pay for cobra.

SCHIP would have covered kids 200 percent above the poverty line...basically a family of 3 making 34K a year (that's pretty damn poor if you ask me).

What is the poverty line now?
A family of 3 making 34k could make it OK here, but we have the one of the lowest costs of living in the country. That won't cut it in Boston for instance. I would love to move back there, but I can't afford (and won't afford) to live there. I imagine the DC area is around as bad...no family can make it on 34k in those areas.

Thought I would share this, as well...

Urban Legends Reference Pages: Canadian Health Care (http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/canada.asp)

Thanks for the link...that pisses me off...she e-mailed it to me like she wrote it. Damn plaugerism!!!!
I just sent her an e-mail about it...she even signed it like it was hers.

Thanks for the link...that pisses me off...she e-mailed it to me like she wrote it. Damn plaugerism!!!!
I just sent her an e-mail about it...she even signed it like it was hers.


I sent that letter to a friend at work to ask what he thought of it and he sent me the link in like 5 minutes. He said it smelled kind of fishy to him so he copied it into a search engine.

This is a classic example of why I take everything with a grain of salt unless I am the one with first-hand experience. Heresay from passionate people can often times confuse the issue. The world and it's going's-ons are not clear cut or black and white. Canadian health-care isn't a utopian system nor is it veiled attempt at genocide. It's somewhere in the middle with it's pro's and con's just like most everything else. To me, it all depends on how the topic of discussion personally affects you.

i cant believe I'm talking to educated people that really think our health care system is fine. the kinds of things that our politicians should be doing, like trying to fix this mess, they avoid like the plague. but steroids in baseball, now that's something important to capital hill. what a joke. people are always screaming on the democrats for not having any ideas. but when someone like Hillary Clinton proposes a new health care idea,its basically shot down without any real discussion

and jsarno, nice try. but i thought you would be above posting propaganda around here. nothing like the facts, huh?

LOL, I guess your friend has a lesbian gf or sister named Shirley huh Jsarno?

i cant believe I'm talking to educated people that really think our health care system is fine. the kinds of things that our politicians should be doing, like trying to fix this mess, they avoid like the plague. but steroids in baseball, now that's something important to capital hill. what a joke. people are always screaming on the democrats for not having any ideas. but when someone like Hillary Clinton proposes a new health care idea,its basically shot down without any real discussion

I am on board with you here. Not Hillary's plan but the fact that our politicians are worried more about things that don't affect us is what pisses me off. Our health care system is broke for a variety of reasons. Mostly due to the meddling and stupidity of politicians who were too dumb to understand what they were doing at the time. Now, today, we have politicians who are too lazy or too worried about poll numbers to do anything about anything that matters. Healthcare being one of the big ones.