Canadian Healthcare from a Canadian...

First this would be the biggest program that the goverment ever took over and taxes would go up atleast as much is now being spent on health ins now. Then the next year taxes would go up some more because its not enough then more & more & more. 50% tax rates for anyone making over 45,000.

Welcome to the United Socialist States of Europe if this happens.

The government would take all of our money and we'd be WORSE off health-wise than before they began emptying our pockets for "healthcare".

Allowing the government to run this would be a disaster.

Welcome to the United Socialist States of Europe if this happens.

The government would take all of our money and we'd be WORSE off health-wise than before they began emptying our pockets for "healthcare".

Allowing the government to run this would be a disaster.
100% correct and it seems that the people who complain the most about how goverment runs push this the most. Don't make much sense and when you ask them to point out any federal gov. programe that is working and is efficent they never have an answer.

I take this like people wanting the government to pay for all higher up education, a little rediculous. Health care is not the save all, there is no way to make the system perfect. The best way to do it is to make enough money to afford a health care or make a government health care for poorer families, not somethin we all have to buy into. More taxes wont make anyone happy.

you guys make me laugh. i guess if you are poor, you aren't allowed to watch T.V.? what exactly does it mean if someone has a satellite dish? if they had cable, would you feel the same way? in alot of places, direct T.V. is cheaper then comcast, so maybe its a cheaper alternative, so they can still watch. when i lived under the poverty line, the one luxury we afforded ourselves was a nicer T.V. does that make me a bad person. while the haves enjoy nicer clothes, vacations, and generally better educations, according to you guys, the have nots need to give up anything extra. just to pay for something like health-care?

you guys make me laugh. i guess if you are poor, you aren't allowed to watch T.V.? what exactly does it mean if someone has a satellite dish? if they had cable, would you feel the same way? in alot of places, direct T.V. is cheaper then comcast, so maybe its a cheaper alternative, so they can still watch. when i lived under the poverty line, the one luxury we afforded ourselves was a nicer T.V. does that make me a bad person. while the haves enjoy nicer clothes, vacations, and generally better educations, according to you guys, the have nots need to give up anything extra. just to pay for something like health-care?

Yes, that's generally how it should work. You should pay for your needs first: shelter, food, water, heat, clothes, and healthcare. If you have any money leftover, then you can spend it on luxury items like sattellite or cable TV. If you don't have any money leftover, then you don't subscribe to cable or sattellite TV. That simple.

That's called living within your means and keeping your priorities straight.

If you get cable or sattellite, and then turn around and go without health insurance, then you're an idiot, and are only contributing to our nation's healthcare problems.

The number of employees has no bearing on the level of health insurance companies offer their employees. Just look at Wal-Mart who are notorious for shafting their employees when it comes to health plan benefits.

I will never argue about Wal Mart...they are the worst at making everything as low cost to themselves as possible to have their products at the lowest prices possible for consumers. They do not take care of their employees.

Believe me, places that mainly employee low wage workers like McDonald's and Wal-Mart offer quite limited healthcare plans to their employees, and often they have to pay quite a bit for the coverage.

Here is a site that talks about the coverage McDonalds employees get. It's very good coverage.
Health and Protection (http://www.mcdonalds.com/corp/career/employee_benefits/health_protecton.html)

Fact still remains, people have the ability to get the insurance, if they choose not to, that's their own fault and should not be my responsibility to take of it for them.

Yes, that's generally how it should work. You should pay for your needs first: shelter, food, water, heat, clothes, and healthcare. If you have any money leftover, then you can spend it on luxury items like sattellite or cable TV. If you don't have any money leftover, then you don't subscribe to cable or sattellite TV. That simple.

That's called living within your means and keeping your priorities straight.

If you get cable or sattellite, and then turn around and go without health insurance, then you're an idiot, and are only contributing to our nation's healthcare problems.

Alright I'm getting scared now. We have been on the same page for a while now.

people that cannot afford health care live a life of hope. the hope that nothing happens to them or a family member. to a hard working family that just cant make it, to begrudge them something that might be able to give them a little pleasure in an otherwise sucky life is ridiculous

people that cannot afford health care live a life of hope. the hope that nothing happens to them or a family member. to a hard working family that just cant make it, to begrudge them something that might be able to give them a little pleasure in an otherwise sucky life is ridiculous


To say you cant live without TV is rediculous

people that cannot afford health care live a life of hope. the hope that nothing happens to them or a family member. to a hard working family that just cant make it, to begrudge them something that might be able to give them a little pleasure in an otherwise sucky life is ridiculous

You're kidding me right? TV is so important that it trumps healthcare? How about that family that can't afford healthcare SAVING the money so they can get healthcare sooner rather than relying on others to pay up for them for longer.