SFREDSKIN
11-14-2007, 01:21 PM
He's made some solid picks, but the one the stands out most because he plays offense and produces #'s, COOLEY. I think the others mentioned are also great but when you play offense TD's are you count.
Who's The Best Draft Pick In The Gibbs 2.0 EraSFREDSKIN 11-14-2007, 01:21 PM He's made some solid picks, but the one the stands out most because he plays offense and produces #'s, COOLEY. I think the others mentioned are also great but when you play offense TD's are you count. SouperMeister 11-14-2007, 01:31 PM Anybody that even remotely follows college football can make a good pick in the 1st round, what the Skins dont have is that core of 2nd, 3rd & 4th round pick that really make up the foundation and depth of a successful team.Cooley was a 3rd rounder and McIntosh was a 2nd rounder. They're both solid. Unfortunately, Gibbs traded a 3rd and a 4th for Lloyd, and the same for Duckett. I agree that you must hold onto those middle picks and draft well to provide solid, inexpensive depth. As for 1st round picks, there are huge busts every year. MTK 11-14-2007, 01:35 PM Anybody that even remotely follows college football can make a good pick in the 1st round, what the Skins dont have is that core of 2nd, 3rd & 4th round pick that really make up the foundation and depth of a successful team. I guess a lot of NFL execs don't watch college ball, because your take certainly doesn't take into account first round busts which there are always a few per each draft. GTripp0012 11-14-2007, 01:38 PM Captain Chaos-#47 was the best pick in the Gibbs era. MTK 11-14-2007, 01:45 PM Cooley was a great pick, as was Taylor and Landry. The jury is still out on Campbell just a bit, but he certainly looks like he is well on his way to being a quality pick. GTripp0012 11-14-2007, 01:45 PM I guess a lot of NFL execs don't watch college ball, because your take certainly doesn't take into account first round busts which there are always a few per each draft.It's usually pretty easy to diagnose the crappy prospects from the good prospects pre draft. It's MUCH harder to seperate the great players from the good players. I don't give teams a free pass for reaching for crappy players. The Redskins have too good of a college personnel department to do that. The teams that draft busts are the same teams every year. Now we can give the Saints a pass for taking Reggie Bush, who is looking to be a good offensive weapon, not one who would revolutionize the game. But I can't write the Lions a pass for taking players in 2002, 2003, and 2005 with college production that did not match up with their pre draft reputation. That was easy, and they f'ed it up. The Redskins have a college personnel department which doesn't do that. redsk1 11-14-2007, 01:46 PM I'll have to go w/ Cooley and Taylor...yes its a tie. Although JC has a great upside the jury is still out. Golston and Montgomery seem to be real good late round picks. Rogers, Rocky, Laron were good draft picks. Laron may be up there w/ Taylor and Cooley soon. MTK 11-14-2007, 01:46 PM Jury's still out a bit on him, but I'd keep my eye on Anthony Montgomery. He's having what I'd consider to be a quality, but not dominant, season on the D-Line. Basically, a solid DT, disruptive to the run game, gets to the passer every once in a while, keeps bodies off Fletcher. Even if he gets no better and plays like this for the next 10 years, I think he's a $5 million per-year player. That's pretty huge out of a 6th round pick. Campbell and Taylor are bigger contributors and probably will be, but considering draft value, I'd say keep an eye on Monty. He's definitely been the surprise of this season to me, with Rocky a close 2nd. irish 11-14-2007, 01:54 PM I guess a lot of NFL execs don't watch college ball, because your take certainly doesn't take into account first round busts which there are always a few per each draft. I would say more first rounders end up good rather than busts. Some might exceed expectations a bit while others are not quite be all they were thought they would be, but full-on Heath Shuler type busts are really not that common. The draft is no sure thing but the 1st round is about as sure a thing as the draft can provide. I guess my best would be Taylor since there really are not that many to choose from that have actually had a chance to make an impact. JoeRedskin 11-14-2007, 01:54 PM Anybody that even remotely follows college football can make a good pick in the 1st round, what the Skins dont have is that core of 2nd, 3rd & 4th round pick that really make up the foundation and depth of a successful team. Just to pile on - Let's look at just the top 10 picks from 2005 (2006 still kind of early to call anyone a bust) - 1 Alex Smith San Francisco 49ers BUST 2 Ronnie Brown Miami Dolphins 3 Braylon Edwards Cleveland Browns 4 Cedric Benson Chicago Bears BUST 5 Cadillac Williams Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6 Pacman Jones Tennessee Titans BUST 7 Troy Williamson Minnesota Vikings BUST 8 Antrel Rolle Arizona Cardinals BUST 9 Carlos Rogers Washington Redskins 10 Mike Williams Detroit Lions BUST You might dispute a couple of those, but even if you take just the certifiables (Smith, Benson, Williamson, M. Williams) - that's a 40% failure rate in the TOP TEN. Number 1 picks are no gimmes - and while I agree that depth is built by finding serviceable players in later rounds, successful teams find successful number 1's. In one of my preseason mags they broke down the league wide "success" rate of picks made after round 1 and it was pretty low. We are talking players still playing for the team that drafted them more than 3 years after the draft. It was less than 20%. |
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