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SKINSnCANES 11-15-2007, 01:44 PM Here's some bulletin board material. Cowboys DE Marcus Spears apparently isn't sold on JC. From John Clayton's Blog:
Spears rips Campbell: Cowboys defensive end Marcus Spears made an interesting comment about Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell. He talked to reporters about the Redskins running philosophy, and he said the reason Washington runs the ball so much is because the team doesn't have enough confidence in Campbell to let him win the game. That probably won't go over well in the Redskins' locker room but it's probably true. Campbell has done well as a starter. He's put the team into playoff contention with consistently good play. But he's not like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning where he can carry the team on his shoulders. In his first full season as a starter, it's probably too much to ask of him.
Link: ESPN.com - Blogs - John Clayton Blog (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3110843&name=clayton_john)
Tony Romo is also in his first full season as a starter, but they let him throw the ball around and try to win games for his team...the worst part about it is everyone respect Campbells long ball and says its his best attribute. So if the QB isnt doing what he does best...how do you not blame the coaching...
sportscurmudgeon 11-15-2007, 02:13 PM Jason Campbell has a mediocre set of WRs to throw at. That's part of the reason he hasn't had the opportunity to put the team on his back and try to engineer a huge comeback by throwing on every down. That's also the reason the play calling does not go downfield more than once or twice a half.
It takes a special caliber of QB to put up huge numbers and lots of TDs with mediocre receivers. Campbell may be that caliber of QB one of these days but in 2007 he is not.
Before anyone tells me about how great these WRs were or have the potential to be, allow me to remind everyone that the number of TD catches by S. Moss PLUS A. Randle El PLUS B. Lloyd for 2007 equals ZERO. Even the no-account Jets and Dolphins have WRs who have caught TDs this year.
Jason Campbell is evolving as an NFL QB; he's better now than he was last year and better than he was in the early games this year. He'll be just fine. He'll be even better even sooner if he gets to play with a better corps of WRs, but that's not under his control...
firstdown 11-15-2007, 03:11 PM I think alot of fans are just tired of the BS. Tired of losing games that should not be lost. We have made the playoffs twice in 14 years. None the less I'll be watching on Sun.
But I didn't have a problem with what Spears said. Outside of last week I think his comments were pretty accurate. And when it mattered most they took the ball out of JC's hands last week. If we need these types of comments to get fired up then god help us.
Well if its that bad find a new team.
hooskins 11-15-2007, 03:33 PM Well if its that bad find a new team.
Lol ok.
Why has been blindly supporting your team, overriding being logical and rational? Yea great a Dallas play said that. Did he really ever attack JC? I dont even see where he attacked Gibbs. And honestly speaking JC isn't Brady or Manning, it's a simple fact. I think people who can't see the truth about their players are pretty bad/not too bright fans. This doesn't mean I think Campbell is bad, or won't be better than Brady, but I am not going to lie to myself.
Perhaps JC will get a bit fired up, but he is a pretty calm and collected guy. I think he realizes he isn't Manning either.
And please don't give me the whole, "back in the day we always hated Dallas no matter what...." kinda answers. I suppose you all walked 10 miles back and forth from school, uphill both ways as well. If fans truly were like that, than thank God for progression, because I do not want to be a part of a stupid fanbase. I am not saying you are stupid first, I think it's silly to get all riled up for facts being stated.
chrisl4064 11-15-2007, 03:40 PM Well if its that bad find a new team.
the classic reply to a critical fan....
70Chip 11-15-2007, 03:43 PM I don't think you can be a passing team when your QB fumbles every other time he gets sacked. So to those who think throwing the ball 50 times a game is the answer, I say, be careful what you wish for. The day may or may not come when Campbell can carry the team, but it definitely hasn't come yet. In regards to Spears comments, I would say that this is the most interesting thing I've heard a Cowboy say in years.
firstdown 11-15-2007, 03:44 PM Its not that people are critical but the ones who cannot find one good thing to say from Snyder down to water boy I just cannot figure out why even cheer for the team. Thats what I just do not get.
Chrisl4064 you may have issues with whats going on but its not in every post you make they are the ones I was talking about. If you do not like one single thing that is done then what is there to cheer for or like in that team.
offiss 11-15-2007, 03:57 PM Its not that people are critical but the ones who cannot find one good thing to say from Snyder down to water boy I just cannot figure out why even cheer for the team. Thats what I just do not get.
Chrisl4064 you may have issues with whats going on but its not in every post you make they are the ones I was talking about. If you do not like one single thing that is done then what is there to cheer for or like in that team.
They are hopefully cheering for change, some people don't like smoke being blown up their a**, and that is pretty much what Gibbs has been doing since his return, you can only cry wolf so often before people turn a deaf ear to you. If Gibbs wants people to take him seriously he needs to show progress, and he doesn't.
hooskins 11-15-2007, 04:03 PM Its not that people are critical but the ones who cannot find one good thing to say from Snyder down to water boy I just cannot figure out why even cheer for the team. Thats what I just do not get.
Chrisl4064 you may have issues with whats going on but its not in every post you make they are the ones I was talking about. If you do not like one single thing that is done then what is there to cheer for or like in that team.
I see where you are coming from. I understand your frustration, but I think that most "Critical fans" just love the Skins so much and when we don't do well it hurts alot and makes them sad. So they express those feelings via anger. Also I think those fans realize their team has potential, and that is why they are critical.
I mean be honest, if we had no talent and a bad coaching staff I would not care as much. But I think we have both, therefore I expect success. But even in our worst season, I watch every single game, and I love them all. It is my passion, and you have realize I don't remember anything from Gibbs first tenure because I was too young. I have seen pretty much all losing seasons, but I watch every game. So telling fans to find another team really isn't the right suggestion. We should all try to understand what makes people fans, even though the tough times.
sandtrapjack 11-15-2007, 04:10 PM Tony Romo is also in his first full season as a starter, but they let him throw the ball around and try to win games for his team...the worst part about it is everyone respect Campbells long ball and says its his best attribute. So if the QB isnt doing what he does best...how do you not blame the coaching...
Totally different set of circumstances. Romo has been in the system and with Dallas for 5 years. Although it is his first full year as a starter, he did have a rather large head start in development compared to JC.
JC was more of "trial by fire" when you compare his development to that of Romo.
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