Should Joe Gibbs be let go or retire?

I want to give credit to the coaching staff for last nights game...I think they did a great job with the play calling (realized that running wasn't working and not crawling into a shell trying to keep the lead- having faith in collins) and time management (no issues). well done.

Maybe the key to success is one day of practice each week.

Actually it's 1 playoff appearance.

1999.
Oh yeah, lost to the Bucs...

That's what I get for trusting that broadcast crew. :spank:

Oh yeah, lost to the Bucs...

That's what I get for trusting that broadcast crew. :spank:

I think they did say 1

Turnovers and missed tackles/coverages on big plays are the coaches fault? Ok...if you say so.


seriously, the conservative play calling - playing for field goals, running and punting away only to have the defense to hold off a team to win a game.

my point is watching teams that win consistantly they execute their offense at the end of games, they dont just sit on the ball. what sums up our team and coach is "we dont play to win, we play not to lose!" that doesn't work in todays NFL with teams able to score quickly. as we have seen in some of our 4th quarter losses. I do believe in my post that i said players have to play and make plays, I understand that, but coaches have to be able to put the players in positions to make those plays, and put us in positions to win games. I dont think Joe has been able to that. If he had, we would not be going through the 3rd losing season of his 4th season. i just dont get why people think Joe is doing his job. I think it is because of his name and past success, it has to be, because he hasing done anything since returning. Spurrier coached the team to the same record he did last season. 5-11 is 5-11 it doesn't matter who is on the sideline.

seriously, the conservative play calling - playing for field goals, running and punting away only to have the defense to hold off a team to win a game.

my point is watching teams that win consistantly they execute their offense at the end of games, they dont just sit on the ball. what sums up our team and coach is "we dont play to win, we play not to lose!" that doesn't work in todays NFL with teams able to score quickly. as we have seen in some of our 4th quarter losses. I do believe in my post that i said players have to play and make plays, I understand that, but coaches have to be able to put the players in positions to make those plays, and put us in positions to win games. I dont think Joe has been able to that. If he had, we would not be going through the 3rd losing season of his 4th season. i just dont get why people think Joe is doing his job. I think it is because of his name and past success, it has to be, because he hasing done anything since returning. Spurrier coached the team to the same record he did last season. 5-11 is 5-11 it doesn't matter who is on the sideline.

2005 didn't count?

neither!

With the way the injuries keep piling up and of course Taylor's death, I'm not sure if any coach could have done any better this year.

Sorry, but I am a member of the club that believes that the plague of nagging injuries can be attributed to Gibbs.

By taking on the "player friendly" coach approach last off-season and allowing players to do their own off-season conditioning without a mandatory monitored off-season training program, players were not in the best shape they could have been in when they reported for camp and the regular season.

None suffered "devastating" injuries, just those nagging groin, hammy's and sprains. In other words the types of injuries that are minimized exponentially when a player is in better shape. I.E. participates in a structured, monitored off-season program.

Sorry, but I am a member of the club that believes that the plague of nagging injuries can be attributed to Gibbs.

By taking on the "player friendly" coach approach last off-season and allowing players to do their own off-season conditioning without a mandatory monitored off-season training program, players were not in the best shape they could have been in when they reported for camp and the regular season.

None suffered "devastating" injuries, just those nagging groin, hammy's and sprains. In other words the types of injuries that are minimized exponentially when a player is in better shape. I.E. participates in a structured, monitored off-season program.

None?

Guess you forget about Jansen getting his ankle snapped or last night with JC getting rolled up on. Or Rogers shredding his knee, or Thomas tearing a muscle. Not sure what conditioning was going to do for those guys.

Joe Gibbs became the coach of the Redskins just at the time that I was "discovering" the awesomeness of the NFL. He made me a Redskin fan, and the 4 SB appearances and 3 trophies cemented my unyielding loyalty to the team, no matter what the record may be.
I felt like a little kid on Christmas day when it was announced that he was returning to the sideline, visions of past glory came rushing to the forefront of my mind. As he did the first time around, he inherited a underperforming, disappointing team. I had every reason to believe that he would turn things around and get the franchise back to it's former level of success. 2004 was disappointing, but who really cares about that, it was his first year back and I wasn't really expecting all that much from the Skins. 2005 was great, running off 5 straight wins to make the post season and winning a playoff game gave me every confidence that the Redskins were "back." The offseason following that year reinforced my optimism, adding key players in the right places. I remember the talking heads on ESPN, particularly Mike Golic, praising the team's free agent moves and ranking their offense and defense in the top 5 during preseason speculation.
2006 and 2007 have been very disappointing and eye opening. Mismanagement of timeouts, indecision at crucial moments in games, underperformance by supposed "star" players, injuries coupled with poor play from backups, all have me shaking my head in frustration and wondering if the return of Joe Gibbs is really the best thing for this franchise.
It is to be expected, that as head coach and team president, with a 5 year contract, that Joe would build a solid foundation, improve the on-field production, and leave the organization in better shape than he found it upon his return in '04. In my analysis, that is not the case. While I applaud the addition of players like Portis, Randle-El, Thomas, Rabach, Fletcher, and the drafting of Taylor, Cooley, Rodgers, Landry, and Campbell - they have not brought the level of success that I, and just about all of us, expected. Squandering draft picks to get folks like Lloyd and Duckett have hurt the long term development of the organization. While I do not entirely place the blame for these bad moves on Joe's shoulders, the moves were made with his approval, if not his outright desire for them.
Should Gibbs step down at the end of the season? Maybe. He has earned the right, in my book, to see it through to the end, but at the end of his contract the Redskins will be no better than when he returned, and that is HUGELY DISAPPOINTING. In that regard, his return has been a failure. Will he be fired? Never. The Danny does not have the stones to do that.
This organization, with brief interludes in '99 and '05 has been in disarray for 16 years, and it will take more than a head coach to fix it.

If you are still reading this, then I applaud your patience. Thanks for taking the time.