Why All The Hate Toward The Patriots?

That's great but the reality is people will find something to hate on regardless. Nobody is immune to the hate... hell people hate on Favre and that blows my mind.

The Farve love affair is getting old. And it's the media that does it so I don't blame Farve.

When it comes down to it LT is a little baby who needs a milk bottle. If he's got a problem w/ Rivers then do it behind closed doors. He keeps showing him up on the sidelines. What a crybaby. Oh.. and he cried like a little bitch when the pats players were doing Merriman's little stupid dance after the playoff loss last year. He looked so stupid complaining about that crap. Merriman shouldn't do shit like that cause it always comes back to bite you in the ass. You don't see Vrabel or Seymour doing dances when they sack the QB.

Marty S. has got to be sitting back laughing his ass off right about now.

Don't get me wrong, I love LT to death. But when you go to a presser and announce how much class you have, it makes me scratch my head.

I have NEVER seen Tom Brady yell at a WR. Not sure what you are talking about on that one.

And A. Smith ran his mouth first.

I guess you haven't watched many Pats games before this season then. I haven't seen him do it as much this season, but a lot more people would call him out on it, considering he's got a stable full of great receivers. My main beef with Brady even before this season was that he admonished his receivers far too often.

And A. Smith ran his mouth to the media. I've never seen a flag thrown for talking smack on ESPN.

And where's the defense of Brady's constant bitching at the refs? That's just competitive fire I guess...

That's not a tough question at all.

I'll take 6-7 with Joe Gibbs' character over 13-0 with Belichick's character any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Well I guess you like losing then. Personally I'm tired of it and I'd rather be 13-0. Bill B. isn't as bad as everyone says he is. I know his players like him and that's cause he coaches them hard and they seem to respond well to it.

You guys keep using the word "character" when comparing Gibbs to Belichick. I honestly believe people are using the words character and personality interchangably here.

Let's be fair, there probably aren't more than two or three head coaches in the entire NFL that have more character than Joe Gibbs, if such a thing is quantifyable?

Well I guess you like losing then. Personally I'm tired of it and I'd rather be 13-0. Bill B. isn't as bad as everyone says he is. I know his players like him and that's cause he coaches them hard and they seem to respond well to it.


They respond well to him since Brady became the QB . Belichick is the Ringo Starr of the New England Patriots. He's just tagging along for the ride.

I'd say Dungy, Holmgren and Cowher. But not more, possibly on the same level. If anyone has doubts about Holmgren, check out what he and his wife do during the offseason.

Well I guess you like losing then. Personally I'm tired of it and I'd rather be 13-0. Bill B. isn't as bad as everyone says he is. I know his players like him and that's cause he coaches them hard and they seem to respond well to it.

Did I say that I "like losing"? All I said was that I'll take character and a tough season over a douchebag with a winning season.

The whole question is a false dichotomy to begin with anyway. Tony Dungy is, by anyone's account, a standup guy, and he certainly doesn't have a problem winning.

The alternatives aren't "immoral, unethical douchebag who always wins" or "really nice, ethical guy with character who always loses." There are other options.

What I find so funny is people that really know football, know that Brady is one of the hardest working guys on the pats. He's a true professional and studies his craft. You don't become as good as he is w/out putting in the time. Look how much better he is now then he was back in 01. It's like night and day. He can't help it the way he looks. Peyton Manning is the one who is on TV every 5 minutes, not Brady. I see Tomlinson and Bush on TV more than Brady. Brady could have way more endorsement deals than anybody if that is what he wanted. And the one TV ad I did see him in he wouldn't do the ad w/out his O-linemen. So IMO people need to chill on all the Brady hating.

I don't think anyone is denying that Tom Brady is a great quarterback. The problem is, he knows he's a great quarterback and makes sure that everyone knows it.

Right after the game, when asked about the A. Smith encounter, he said Smith was a good player, and probably was just trying to get his team hyped for the game. Then I hear an interview that he did yesterday on the radio where he said they purposely targeted Smith, and he's a third stringer that's only playing because of injuries. And why make the comment about the 4th & 1 play in the Ravens game, after you WON the effing game? The only reason to make that comment is to rub salt in the wound. Good quarterback or not, he's still a dick.

And no you don't see him doing commercials every five minutes... he's just on TMZ and the Enquirer all the time.

You guys keep using the word "character" when comparing Gibbs to Belichick. I honestly believe people are using the words character and personality interchangably here.

Let's be fair, there probably aren't more than two or three head coaches in the entire NFL that have more character than Joe Gibbs, if such a thing is quantifyable?

I don't think I'm using them interchangeably. For instance, I think Bill Cowher's personality is pretty abrasive and he probably comes across as an asshole. However, I have no reason to doubt his character.

Character doesn't mean you're a nice guy who sits in fields of daisy's strumming a guitar and thinking about peace and love.

Bill B. lacks character AND he's got an asshole personality, so double whammy on him and that's probably why people tend to dislike him.