Len Pastabelly on Gibbs' Retirement: "Just An Ordinary Joe"

The article says he doesn't understand the needs and perspectives of today's players, that he doesn't understand the salary cap. It doesn't even touch on his Xs and Os abilities. It's a terrible, spiteful article written by a terrible, spiteful man


cant you get in trouble for talking like that about a fellow ESPN employee? lol
sounds like you know len personally :laughing2

What? Who edited my post? Len P. is a wonderful beacon of professionalism :)

I'll never understand that take. Luck? What luck is involved with 4 and 5 game winning streaks?? In this streak and in '05, the Skins won those games pretty convincingly. I'm really at a loss to figure out where luck was involved.The exact same luck that causes us to lose three and four games leading up to those win streaks in those seasons respectively.

Daseal forgot to mention that though.

The exact same luck that causes us to lose three and four games leading up to those win streaks in those seasons respectively.

Daseal forgot to mention that though.

Game. Set. Match.

Hey mods, we suspend or permanently ban stupid people from the forum why can't we ban Len Pastabelly from the forum? Is his opinion worthy of discussion?

Hey mods, we suspend or permanently ban stupid people from the forum why can't we ban Len Pastabelly from the forum? Is his opinion worthy of discussion?

It is kind of surprising we have a whole thread dedicated to his column, but not one on John Clayton's

It is kind of surprising we have a whole thread dedicated to his column, but not one on John Clayton's

You know? I wish vBulletin allowed me to filter out threads/posts with his name on it.

It took u longer then i thought it would to come join ur buddy. ANYWAYS so ur a Redskins fan but yet ur backing up a guy who is saying negative things about ur hall of fame coach? i'm sorry i just can't believe after all that Gibbs has done for ur team u would be glad he's leaving and even worst agreeing with people who talk trash about him. I've been a Packers fan since i was a little kid and I would stand behind Brett Favre even if he was playing like crap and in his 60's because i aprreciate everything he's done for my team and to me he deserves the respect just like i think Gibbs deserves it after everything he's done. U should be happy there was someone there to hold ur team together this year after the Taylor tragedy and all he's done instead of coming on here talking bout u agree with some fat f#%k talking shit about him......

I dont recall saying I was glad to see him go in this thread. I said over his entire career he was a great coach but Gibbs 2.0 was a disappointment. There is no way anyone on this board would have thought that after 4 years Gibbs 2.0 would leave with a losing record. Its disappointing.

I dont recall saying I was glad to see him go in this thread. I said over his entire career he was a great coach but Gibbs 2.0 was a disappointment. There is no way anyone on this board would have thought that after 4 years Gibbs 2.0 would leave with a losing record. Its disappointing.Looking at the onfield performance, I can't disagree with that. Getting to the playoffs is fun, but let's be honest, four years ago we had visions of Super Bowls, and the Skins haven't been close to that level.

Looking at the bigger picture, Gibbs solidified the QB position for the next 8-10 years if Campbell's progression continues. Improve play on both lines and I see the Skins taking that next step.

Take the article for what it is and move on. There really is no need to dwell on backhanded compliments (which is how I read them) and "I told you so"s. Pastabelly gets paid to write his opinion about football, and while most people do not agree with his opinion, he's entitled to it. It obviously pays the bills because he's still writing for ESPN.

The only thing I don't fully agree with in his article is his lack of gumption in saying "Thankfully, for Gibbs, the Hall of Fame is a lifetime fraternity from which a member can't be expelled." This is completely asinine and unnecessary. Opinion or not, Gibbs' overall track record is quite good. 10 playoff appearances in 16 years (17-7 record, 71% winning percentage), 4 Super Bowl appearances, 3 Lombardi Trophies, 154-94 regular season record (62% winning percentage). Just because Gibbs was not able to live up to anyone's expectations in his 2nd tenure does not mean he still isn't a Hall of Fame coach.

Agree or disagree with records, players, management, etc., the one thing Joe was able to do was right the ship and get the franchise back it's swagger. A swagger that will continue under the next coach and into the future.