RobH4413
01-11-2008, 01:18 AM
I think it was a terrible terrible choice of words... and she should absolutely be held accountable.
With that being said... 2 weeks should def. get her to critique her choice of words. Unless there is prior history, for a first "accidental" offense, this seems just. Something else happens down the road... then the axe most certainly will fall.
As far as Sharpton goes... I've spoken with many Black Americans who are angered that he feels the need to represent the black community. I tend to think it would irk me as well.
He's generally over zealous and an insult to many legitimate civil rights activists. Many times it seems he's out for personal prosperity, and doesn't speak legitimately for a very legitimate cause. Just my .02
FRPLG
01-11-2008, 01:40 AM
Well as a knee-jerk reaction I take it offensively. But I mean seeing as how they're close friends and such I don't and she apologized to him personally. I know she didn't mean it maliciously and that means a lot in my not taking offense to it as well. I said if she was just some random woman and he had no idea who she was, then I would be a little more offended.
Gotcha.
onlydarksets
01-11-2008, 09:14 AM
Well as a knee-jerk reaction I take it offensively. But I mean seeing as how they're close friends and such I don't and she apologized to him personally. I know she didn't mean it maliciously and that means a lot in my not taking offense to it as well. I said if she was just some random woman and he had no idea who she was, then I would be a little more offended.
Al Sharpton = kneejerk
Frankly, I agree with you. Unless any of us are black and are 50-70 years old, we can't really appreciate the implications and the memories that are evoked when a white person says "lynch a black man". That is the kneejerk part, and, frankly, is something that will probably take another generation to address (a combination of the progress that's been made over the last 50 years and "time heals wounds", sort of thing).
That said, after the kneejerk reaction, you have to look at context. There is nothing in this situation that merits a suspension. Al Sharpton is notorious for dogpiling, and this is just another case of that. He really has no credibility, but he has clout, which enables him to pull crap like this.
Sometimes this society is just too damn sensitive.
Totally.
People seem to look for reasons to be pissed off about something. I really am amused every time I hear the phrase "dude disrepected me" (or another equivalent). If we expended the same energy in tolerance that we do trying to make more problems, we would have............no more problems.
Why fix anything when we can just lawyer up and bring it?????
I dunno. I'm kinda in the same boat as my best friend. I just see people as people. I just wish one day society could do the same thing.
Words to live by..............
onlydarksets
01-11-2008, 10:39 AM
Why fix anything when we can just lawyer up and bring it?????
Why's it gotta be a lawyer-thing?
Why's it gotta be a lawyer-thing?
Take it Easy..........don't make me pull out my mouthpiece and sue you.
mheisig
01-11-2008, 12:15 PM
Why's it gotta be a lawyer-thing?
Speaking of being overly-sensitive ;)
skinsfan69
01-12-2008, 12:59 PM
Basically the compliment came because they were saying that no one could beat Tiger and Nick Faldo said something along the lines of well maybe they need to all gang up on him and she said "lynch him in a back alley", basically saying thats the only way you can beat Tiger....
I mean I dont know who is/isnt African American on this website, but I'd really like to know if stuff like this is offensive to them. I just find that its insane that with all the crime going on in the world, this is what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are worried about.
I'm black and I found it VERY offensive. I took an African American studies class in college a long time ago. There were so many hate/lynching crimes that went unpunished that it's not even funny. Stuff that never ever made it to the headlines that I learned about. However I don't see the need for Al Sharpton to get involved and I don't think she should lose her job. The Golf Channel did the right thing. Sometimes people say stupid shit without thinking. She should know better.
However, here is my problem with what she said. Would Kelly T. have used those words if she was talking about Ernie Els, Phil Mickleson or Jim Furyk? I don't know. If I had to bet on it she probably would not have used that word if she was talking about a white person.
FRPLG
01-12-2008, 01:31 PM
However, here is my problem with what she said. Would Kelly T. have used those words if she was talking about Ernie Els, Phil Mickleson or Jim Furyk? I don't know. If I had to bet on it she probably would not have used that word if she was talking about a white person.
See I disagree. I don't think she used the word lynch with any thought. I think it was just the first word meaning "do harm" that came to mind. I seriously doubt that she thought of an image of Tiger hanging from a tree when she said it. And I think she would have said the same thing whether he was black or white. The only people making this about his race are pople from his race.