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SC Skins Fan 01-24-2008, 02:30 PM The situation is "out of hand" in the eyes of the media and fans, both of which know very little of what is actually going on behind the scenes. We haven't heard a peep from any Redskins official during this process, so until then we only have ourselves to blame for this self induced panic.
What did Snyder say when Gibbs stepped down? Something about being patient and going through the process? Sounds like he's doing exactly what he said he was going to do.
Matty,
While I often agree with you, here I must humbly disagree. If Snyder/Cerrato already know what they want to do with the HC vacancy then why don't they hold a presser and announce Gibbs' successor? You can say that they are "being patient" and perhaps waiting until after the SB, but in that case why are they bringing in Zorn and Ryan as OC and DC candidates (as multiple sources have reported)? If they are bringing in OC and DC candidates then the only conclusion is that they have a successor in place already, otherwise why are you trying to build a staff already? If Fassel is the guy, then why not just announce it? Why is it contingent on getting Zorn and Ryan? I can't imagine that Fassel is in position to say, I'll only come if I can get X and Y on my staff. If you trust Fassel to run the ship then why do you need a whole staff in place before you hire him? Not to mention the fact that the Redskins still have an OC and DC under contract (obviously a new coach would probably overhaul, but why make that attempt publicly before you have even announced a new coach?) If they want to wait for Spagnolo (which would have made sense had the Giants lost but now seems to just drag the thing out too long), then wait for him but don't bring in coaching candidates for the OC and DC jobs.
No other team in the league that had a vacancy waited to fill the OC and DC spots before they announced the coach. They announced their head coach, then (logically) allowed him to move forward choosing his staff. I agree that the histrionics on this site and elsewhere during the search were unnecessary. However, the past two days Snyder has bungled the operation and I think criticism of specifically his handling of the Fassel/Ryan/Zorn situation is very justified.
Matty,
While I often agree with you, here I must humbly disagree. If Snyder/Cerrato already know what they want to do with the HC vacancy then why don't they hold a presser and announce Gibbs' successor? You can say that they are "being patient" and perhaps waiting until after the SB, but in that case why are they bringing in Zorn and Ryan as OC and DC candidates (as multiple sources have reported)? If they are bringing in OC and DC candidates then the only conclusion is that they have a successor in place already, otherwise why are you trying to build a staff already? If Fassel is the guy, then why not just announce it? Why is it contingent on getting Zorn and Ryan? I can't imagine that Fassel is in position to say, I'll only come if I can get X and Y on my staff. If you trust Fassel to run the ship then why do you need a whole staff in place before you hire him? Not to mention the fact that the Redskins still have an OC and DC under contract (obviously a new coach would probably overhaul, but why make that attempt publicly before you have even announced a new coach?) If they want to wait for Spagnolo (which would have made sense had the Giants lost but now seems to just drag the thing out too long), then wait for him but don't bring in coaching candidates for the OC and DC jobs.
No other team in the league that had a vacancy waited to fill the OC and DC spots before they announced the coach. They announced their head coach, then (logically) allowed him to move forward choosing his staff. I agree that the histrionics on this site and elsewhere during the search were unnecessary. However, the past two days Snyder has bungled the operation and I think criticism of specifically his handling of the Fassel/Ryan/Zorn situation is very justified.
Maybe because they are still going through the process and interviewing candidates??
Without knowing the entire situation, it's comical to sit here and blast Snyder and co.
POORFAN 01-24-2008, 02:42 PM Dan Snyder is a fool. He should get rid of Cerrato (again) as he doesn't know what he is doing and rehire Casserly who does know what he is doing. His obvious move would have been to promote Williams to head coach and let him hire the new defensive coach. By keeping Saunders and the other coaches, he could have built on what he has which is a team showing signs of developing into a winner. He doesn't understand cohesiveness and team spirit within the organization. Now, I gaurantee the team will regress into a doormat for the division. Snyder has gotten rid of better coaches than Fassel ever was.
Luxorreb 01-24-2008, 02:54 PM If you think this thread is stupid don't post on it. If you think our voices don't affect people then don't talk. Our discourse has been featured on local television shows and mentioned on sportstalk radio. As for Dan reading this thread, probably not. Talking about problems often times fixes the problems or atleast makes them easier to deal with. Before ya claim a thread is stupid or 'explicative retarded' try consulting a thesaurus to give a better read. Thanks to the rest!!! Hail to the Redskins.
Warren85Ellard 01-24-2008, 02:55 PM And Snyder shouldn't bow to fan pressure. Remember the last Washington owner that got bullied by the fans and ended up changing course because of it? He ended up giving Juwan Howard $105M ...
That being said, the situation has gotten out of hand it seems and Snyder must accept at least some of the blame for that.
That's a good point. Remember Abe thought that throwing a parade for Juwan would entice him to stay in D.C.? Did anybody go to that? Fans, including myself, were pissed. In retrospect, Polin (by accident), made the right move, by not signing Juwan. Because of Howard's return, Rasheed Wallace for Rod Strickland soon followed.....That did ruin us. If you want to use the Wizards for comparison, look at how the Wizards have done since they got a real GM in Ernie Grunfeld!
skinsfan69 01-24-2008, 03:12 PM Matty,
While I often agree with you, here I must humbly disagree. If Snyder/Cerrato already know what they want to do with the HC vacancy then why don't they hold a presser and announce Gibbs' successor? You can say that they are "being patient" and perhaps waiting until after the SB, but in that case why are they bringing in Zorn and Ryan as OC and DC candidates (as multiple sources have reported)? If they are bringing in OC and DC candidates then the only conclusion is that they have a successor in place already, otherwise why are you trying to build a staff already? If Fassel is the guy, then why not just announce it? Why is it contingent on getting Zorn and Ryan? I can't imagine that Fassel is in position to say, I'll only come if I can get X and Y on my staff. If you trust Fassel to run the ship then why do you need a whole staff in place before you hire him? Not to mention the fact that the Redskins still have an OC and DC under contract (obviously a new coach would probably overhaul, but why make that attempt publicly before you have even announced a new coach?) If they want to wait for Spagnolo (which would have made sense had the Giants lost but now seems to just drag the thing out too long), then wait for him but don't bring in coaching candidates for the OC and DC jobs.
No other team in the league that had a vacancy waited to fill the OC and DC spots before they announced the coach. They announced their head coach, then (logically) allowed him to move forward choosing his staff. I agree that the histrionics on this site and elsewhere during the search were unnecessary. However, the past two days Snyder has bungled the operation and I think criticism of specifically his handling of the Fassel/Ryan/Zorn situation is very justified.
Why interview a OC and a DC w/out a HC? Who does that? You hire the HC FIRST! Snyder and Vinny suck beyond belief.
Maybe because they are still going through the process and interviewing candidates??
Without knowing the entire situation, it's comical to sit here and blast Snyder and co.
You are TOTALLY correct!
Is it not amazing how easy it is for those with no skin on the table, to prematurely judge the decisions of those that do.
firstdown 01-24-2008, 03:20 PM Dan Snyder is a fool. He should get rid of Cerrato (again) as he doesn't know what he is doing and rehire Casserly who does know what he is doing. His obvious move would have been to promote Williams to head coach and let him hire the new defensive coach. By keeping Saunders and the other coaches, he could have built on what he has which is a team showing signs of developing into a winner. He doesn't understand cohesiveness and team spirit within the organization. Now, I gaurantee the team will regress into a doormat for the division. Snyder has gotten rid of better coaches than Fassel ever was.
Welcome to the board.
You said Snyder has fired better coaches then Fassel. Can you name the two or more that your speaking about?
Dan Snyder is a fool. He should get rid of Cerrato (again) as he doesn't know what he is doing and rehire Casserly who does know what he is doing. His obvious move would have been to promote Williams to head coach and let him hire the new defensive coach. By keeping Saunders and the other coaches, he could have built on what he has which is a team showing signs of developing into a winner. He doesn't understand cohesiveness and team spirit within the organization. Now, I gaurantee the team will regress into a doormat for the division. Snyder has gotten rid of better coaches than Fassel ever was.
Yet Fassel has been to a Super Bowl in the last decade, something that Turner, Marty, Spurrier, and Gibbs can't lay claim to.
Luxorreb 01-24-2008, 03:27 PM How do we feel about Josh McDaniel? I mean if we're going to veer off the road and start over....
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