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i wouldnt give up moss for CJ ...

I would. I said this last year and got killed for saying it but SM is a nice #2 NFL wr. Nothing more and nothing less. He is not a #1. CJ is a number one NFL wr and his production speaks for itself. However I'm very skeptical about giving up a first round draft pick for him.

I'm really sorry to be a hater but the problem with the Redskins is that our owner and his monkey boy might as well be participants in this forum because I'm sure they'd love nothing more than to give Chad Johnson a 15 million dollar signing bonus and lock him up for the next five years (or two - until they renegotiate his contract).

We currently have over 13 million in salary for 2008 locked up in 3 wide receivers - even if Lloyd is cut, the cap hit will be substantial and we are still talking about a big chunk of our cap being devoted to wide receivers.

No offense to all the people who are getting a hard-on for #85 but are you insane?

I don't understand why we are talking about Briggs and Chad Johnson when year after year, the teams that are winning super bowls are following such a different personnel model than the Redskins.

We are talking about teams that draft well, sign free agents for below market value, cultivate their own talent.

Why are we still talking about signing two guys who we are going to pay above market for - and in the process, sacrifice depth at other - more vital - positions.

Personally, I would rather use the finances to build depth on our lines and focus on the draft. Let someone else blow up their cap to sign this over-priced free agent.

I'm not totally against trading for CJ, but I'm not thrilled about it either, I guess I'm on the fence with him. I don't agree with the way he's handled himself lately, it's obvious he really wants out of Cincy but he's gone a bit overboard with his behavior.

My thinking is this, we need a true #1 WR. Moss is not the guy. Drafted WRs typically do not make an instant impact and can sometimes take a few years to develop, and this draft doesn't have any WRs that really excite anyone. A WR is a position that I think is worth trading for. Hell I think it's the Bengals that need to worry about getting fair value for him. He's definitely one of the top WRs in the game and has 6 straight seasons of 1000+.

I'm being funny here but why does everyone around here have a hard on for Lance Briggs? I just don't see what all the hoopla is all about. He's a nice player but I certainly would not break the bank for Briggs.
IMO LB is a pretty big need area for us and he is the best out there. As Matty said, Rocky's knees are questionable at best. Washington isn't getting any younger and has had recent injuries, Fletcher is solid but not a young player and I'm not sure if any changes Blache will implement to the defense will fit him. Blades is unproven.

If we could bring in Briggs, it upgrades us immediately and we don't lose anything other than $$$/cap space. This is a much more prudent signing than CJ would be.

IMO LB is a pretty big need area for us and he is the best out there. As Matty said, Rocky's knees are questionable at best. Washington isn't getting any younger and has had recent injuries, Fletcher is solid but not a young player and I'm not sure if any changes Blanche will implement to the defense will fit him. Blades is unproven.

If we could bring in Briggs, it upgrades us immediately and we don't lose anything other than $$$/cap space. This is a much more prudent signing than CJ would be.

I agree with you there. It makes much more sense than it did last year that's for sure.

I'm really sorry to be a hater but the problem with the Redskins is that our owner and his monkey boy might as well be participants in this forum because I'm sure they'd love nothing more than to give Chad Johnson a 15 million dollar signing bonus and lock him up for the next five years (or two - until they renegotiate his contract).

We currently have over 13 million in salary for 2008 locked up in 3 wide receivers - even if Lloyd is cut, the cap hit will be substantial and we are still talking about a big chunk of our cap being devoted to wide receivers.

No offense to all the people who are getting a hard-on for #85 but are you insane?

I don't understand why we are talking about Briggs and Chad Johnson when year after year, the teams that are winning super bowls are following such a different personnel model than the Redskins.

We are talking about teams that draft well, sign free agents for below market value, cultivate their own talent.

Why are we still talking about signing two guys who we are going to pay above market for - and in the process, sacrifice depth at other - more vital - positions.

Personally, I would rather use the finances to build depth on our lines and focus on the draft. Let someone else blow up their cap to sign this over-priced free agent.

THANK YOU. See, what we should do is let Blades play the weak side until Rocky comes back. The guy was a tackling machine in college. Put his ass out there and let him learn. You need to have some starters that make 500k to balance out the team. Unless you're the Pats, and you already have most of the pieces in place, chasing high priced FA's is such a waste of time. Look at SF last year? They signed a bunch of guys and they still sucked. You can't go around trying to buy a team. Nate Clemons got big $. They signed a guy from NE and Balt, can't remember their names. Did it help them? Nope. IT DOESN'T WORK. You don't see Pittsburgh chasing around these guys. That's cause they draft and have guys waiting in the pipeline. When is our FO going to learn?

True good point. Plus the Dolphins are coming off a 1-15 season and are definitely in rebuilding mode. That takes away some of the appeal especially if the money is close.

I think the Dolphins' first priority is going to be Asante Samuel

IMO LB is a pretty big need area for us and he is the best out there. As Matty said, Rocky's knees are questionable at best. Washington isn't getting any younger and has had recent injuries, Fletcher is solid but not a young player and I'm not sure if any changes Blanche will implement to the defense will fit him. Blades is unproven.

If we could bring in Briggs, it upgrades us immediately and we don't lose anything other than $$$/cap space. This is a much more prudent signing than CJ would be.

Sorry but I'm throwing Blades out there and let K. Campbell spell him. Why did we draft him? To play teams and be a back-up his whole career?

NE went out and spent money on FA's last year. Yeah they came up one game short but I wouldn't be too upset with 18 wins.

Rocky had bad knees even before this latest injury. I'm not sure he can ever be counted on.

Blades might be a nice find but Briggs is easily the better player right now.

Briggs and the Skins had a deal in place before the trade fell through. I'm sure there is still interest from both sides. Briggs wants out, Chicago has indicated they aren't interested in bringing him back, do the math.

The problem is that beyond Rocky McIntosh the Redskins are having some serious concerns about Marcus Washington's health. So it's not just a matter of plugging in Blades.