# 21 draft pick

thread starter has a point, but when u look closer the 3 DE's of the giants (tuck, strahan, umenyora) none were first round picks, 2 were 2nd 1 was 3rd. their 1st round DE kiwanuka isnt at their level at all imo. lets pick up a de in round 2 or 3 and go cb first

So pass up a great 1st rounder b/c Giants starters were found late? Ok that's not logical.

I agree with the general ideas posted in this thread. We need to draft a DE whether it is in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round. It is a MUST. I know Blache likes good corners, but with Rogers healthy we have a pretty legit CB corps, and any QB can complete passes to any WR against any CB given enough time. WE NEED A PASS RUSH!

When you get right down to it - outside of QB, RB and TE, we have "needs" all over the field. At 21, we take the best player available outside the above named positions. If a stud at one of those positions falls - try like hell to trade down. If that fails, stick with the best player outside of those positions.

actually Joe, we've needed a young backup qb for a few years & if Collins leaves & we cut Brunell (a good possibility) we'll really need a qb. I think it'd be worth a 4th round pick or lower to develop long term & sign a vet as the #2.

I agree with the general ideas posted in this thread. We need to draft a DE whether it is in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round. It is a MUST. I know Blache likes good corners, but with Rogers healthy we have a pretty legit CB corps, and any QB can complete passes to any WR against any CB given enough time. WE NEED A PASS RUSH!
What about w/out Rogers in '08 (which is likely the case)? Especially considering Springs may not be around in '09.

So pass up a great 1st rounder b/c Giants starters were found late? Ok that's not logical.

not exactly the point, the point is to get a good de u dont need to burn a 1st rounder necessarily, which is the model the giants have taken more often than not. get that elite or top end cb, daniels is serviceable still. get that pass rushing specialist and mould him into a complete player.

What about w/out Rogers in '08 (which is likely the case)? Especially considering Springs may not be around in '09.

We may be in the market for a Free Agent CB then. We don't really want to have Rogers out with injury, Springs not around, and throw and rookie into the fire.

If Springs won't talk we cut him and enter Free Agent Market for top CB. Its my opinion that a DE can come right in and start with less trouble than a secondary player, typically.

not exactly the point, the point is to get a good de u dont need to burn a 1st rounder necessarily, which is the model the giants have taken more often than not. get that elite or top end cb, daniels is serviceable still. get that pass rushing specialist and mould him into a complete player.

how is it burning him if he's the best in the draft and no telling who's around later? Just b/c the Giants did it means nothing really. Look at Brady. Should be go after QB's in the 2nd day? Daniels isn't elite and not sure if he ever was. We picked him up expecting alot more production not just for comments to the Post and Leadership in the locker room.

What about w/out Rogers in '08 (which is likely the case)? Especially considering Springs may not be around in '09.

Certainly we need to replace Rogers for this season, but I think that the better option would be to pickup a vet for this season. Next year when Springs is gone Id be content with Rogers and Smoot as our starters, and a day one draft pick (from next years draft obviously) developing behind them.

Either way I stand behind my statement that it doesn't really matter how good your corners are if you can get pressure on the QB.

If you guys talked about it before I missed it, but isnt it kinda of wierd that it worked out we got the 21st pick. I mean ST keeps reminding us how much he's gonna be missed.


I say you go to address the o or d line, unless theres a stud cornor avialable. A real good free agent o lineman or cornor just cost to much, imo

I hat e to say it but what about the Pac Man?
We may be in the market for a Free Agent CB then. We don't really want to have Rogers out with injury, Springs not around, and throw and rookie into the fire.

If Springs won't talk we cut him and enter Free Agent Market for top CB. Its my opinion that a DE can come right in and start with less trouble than a secondary player, typically.