Merged Thread: Romney Drops Out; Can McCain Defeat Democrats?

As far as against Obama... I'm not totally sure about that one...

One of Obama's big issues is on lobbyist reform, and things of that nature. McCain pretty much owns that issue...but I'm not sure people even look at the issues anymore. So many opinions are based on rhetoric... and Obama certainly is a better speaker.


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Obama's campaign is not about issues at all. If people focused on his voting record in The Senate, for instance, they would see that he is the most Liberal member of that body -even more Liberal than Bernie Sanders who describes himself as a socialist. He doesn't want people to focus on that, which is why he always talks about "moving beyond politics". Unfortunately, when the dust clears, politics is what politicians do. Anyone who buys into Obama based on his appealing personality and expects things to be in any way different, is setting themself up to be disappointed. In fact, I think anyone who looks to politics for some sense of "meaning", is begging to be lied to.

Obama's campaign is not about issues at all. If people focused on his voting record in The Senate, for instance, they would see that he is the most Liberal member of that body -even more Liberal than Bernie Sanders who describes himself as a socialist. He doesn't want people to focus on that, which is why he always talks about "moving beyond politics". Unfortunately, when the dust clears, politics is what politicians do. Anyone who buys into Obama based on his appealing personality and expects things to be in any way different, is setting themself up to be disappointed. In fact, I think anyone who looks to politics for some sense of "meaning", is begging to be lied to.

He won't get through a general election campaign without this being hammered. Whether it will matter is the question. Don't worry though, people won't be able to ignore it.

Obama's campaign is not about issues at all. If people focused on his voting record in The Senate, for instance, they would see that he is the most Liberal member of that body -even more Liberal than Bernie Sanders who describes himself as a socialist. He doesn't want people to focus on that, which is why he always talks about "moving beyond politics". Unfortunately, when the dust clears, politics is what politicians do. Anyone who buys into Obama based on his appealing personality and expects things to be in any way different, is setting themself up to be disappointed. In fact, I think anyone who looks to politics for some sense of "meaning", is begging to be lied to.


What issues do you feel he hasn't addressed or talked about? You can't make a blanket statement like that and if you are back it up or include all the other candidates cause they fair no better.

I do agree that he talks pretty which is why he is getting a lot of support but I don't think that's all there is to him.

I, too, am a big McCain supporter. Was the first time around when Bush beat him, too. I do think he has a good chance, as long as it's against Hillary. Obama is also attractive to a lot of indepenedents and I don't think it's quite clear which way those independents would vote.

BTW, here's (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/06/roland.martin/index.html) an excellent article on why Conservatives dislike McCain, and why it's imperative that they back him up.

What issues do you feel he hasn't addressed or talked about? You can't make a blanket statement like that and if you are back it up or include all the other candidates cause they fair no better.

I do agree that he talks pretty which is why he is getting a lot of support but I don't think that's all there is to him.


Obama never gets specific on any issue. He generally speaks in general terms such as "we need change!" However, he doesn't tell us what he's like to change to.

Every stop Clinton makes, she tells her audience what new government program she'll create for them. If you add up all of this new spending, it's impossible to fulfill and if she tried to, we'd be handing over nearly ALL of our income to the government.

Unfortunately, McCain DOES get specific. I say unfortunately because he becomes less and less attractive as a candidate when he speaks of his plans such as amnesty. (he won't admit it is amnesty, but it is)



I'm really disappointed in the choice of candidates on both sides this election.

I, too, am a big McCain supporter. Was the first time around when Bush beat him, too. I do think he has a good chance, as long as it's against Hillary. Obama is also attractive to a lot of indepenedents and I don't think it's quite clear which way those independents would vote.

BTW, here's (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/06/roland.martin/index.html) an excellent article on why Conservatives dislike McCain, and why it's imperative that they back him up.


McCain has HUGE independent support, which is precisely why he's running away with the nomination. Many of the early states have allowed independents to vote and a few have had open primaries and he's even gotten votes from Democrats. Whether it is because they support him or if they're just trying to eliminate a Conservative choice...who knows, but McCain is more popular with independents than with his own party base.

Obama never gets specific on any issue. He generally speaks in general terms such as "we need change!" However, he doesn't tell us what he's like to change to.

Every stop Clinton makes, she tells her audience what new government program she'll create for them. If you add up all of this new spending, it's impossible to fulfill and if she tried to, we'd be handing over nearly ALL of our income to the government.

Unfortunately, McCain DOES get specific. I say unfortunately because he becomes less and less attractive as a candidate when he speaks of his plans such as amnesty. (he won't admit it is amnesty, but it is)



I'm really disappointed in the choice of candidates on both sides this election.

You as a citizen need to do your homework. See the problems, see his solutions. (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/)

Oddly enough I was just telling my friend this. This is the way I see it:

1) If Obama is democratic nominee: McCain has a harder shot at becoming President. Conservatives that don't like McCain either wouldn't vote, or would switch over to democrat

2) If Hillary is democratic nominee: McCain has a much better chance being that Conservatives that don't like McCain hate Hilary so much more, they either wouldn't vote or would just vote for McCain anyway to keep her out of office.

I always thought that was why Republicans wanted her to win the democratic nomination so bad.

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Interesting... I'm curious as to how long Huckabee stays in the race. McCain seems remarkably close to seal the deal, and this will change the dynamics of his campaign.

I also wonder whether or not Huckabee gets any kind of surge here. It seems the reason Romney was crushed on super tuesday was because conservatives were splitting between him and Huckabee... giving McCain a clear shot.

This also could change how the Hilary and Obama race fares. Democrats will start voting for the "most electable". This could be big for Obama.

Lookup douchebaggery and changing your position centillion times in the dictionary and you'll see Romney's picture. Good riddance.