Zorn "probably the worst NFL hire of all time"??

This is not a shot just a question but How many super bowls have they won?

I think two right? Holmgren and Gruden with one each.

edit: oh you didn't mean the Holmgren tree, you meant the Seahawks? Sorry, it was the this is not a shot preface that threw me off.

Sorry, nobody can convince me that Zorn was the worst hire of all time without even seeing him coach a single game.

I think we could probably say this was the worst coach hiring process of all time with little dissent. The only parallel I can draw is last year's Raider's hire of Kiffin. And he didn't turn out too bad, not that he's welcome in Oakland anymore...but that's another story.

Sorry, nobody can convince me that Zorn was the worst hire of all time without even seeing him coach a single game.

Exactly.

I woudl also like to posit the idea that when we discuss whether a guy is a "good hire" what he did as coach is actually irrelevant because in my mind a "good hire" is a hire that was reasonable and well though out. For example...Spurrier was actually a "good hire" that simply didn't work. No one thought he'd suck as mucha s he did. In fact most believed it was a fantastic hire at the time. It wasn't a "bad hire" it was a bad result.

Lane Kiffin was a "bad hire" there was not any good evidence that he was even a good coach and he was younger than half his team and all of hiw assistants. That's a "bad hire".

Norv Turner in SD is probably a "bad hire". He has proven every where that he isn't the greatest HC and that was a great team they handed him. It may have worked for a year but does anyone think it will last? Bad hire. When We hired him it was a "good hire".

Anyone see my point on this.

As for Zorn I am on the fence really. I suspect it is going to work if Danny gives him the time but I am wary that DS will. I think it is hard to see if this a good hire until we know how DS is going to handle this. If he gives him time and pateince it was good hire but if he just wants Zorn to come in amake some magic in two years then it was a bad hire probably.

I think we could probably say this was the worst coach hiring process of all time with little dissent. The only parallel I can draw is last year's Raider's hire of Kiffin. And he didn't turn out too bad, not that he's welcome in Oakland anymore...but that's another story.

I'd disagree only because we have no idea what other coaching searches were like. This was our first real coaching search in the new blogging age. We have to remember that for the first time ever we had up to date minute by minute coverage of this like no other search in history. I think it is likely that many other searches go exactly this way. Maybe they have gone a little faster but in the end what so "bad" about this search? Just the fact that it took a while? They brough a bunch of people in and kicked the tires on them and eventually didn't hire any of them. It's not like they picked a name out of a hat. Zonr is a guy they hired as OC with the backing of the so called fornt runners and then when they finally whittled out all the front runners they realized well maybe the guy we already hired on the advice of so many good football people dserves a shot. And he wowed them. I fail to see how it was bad.

I agree with FRPLG. If I were to rate the coaching search process by how quickly I was appeased then, sure, it was terrible. Instead I like to think "Hey, I'm really glad they thought this thing through and the hands-on owner is really comfortable with this hire." I've got very little issue with this coaching process...and that's in spite of me really wanting GW to be the next HC.

I'm just wondering what major issues people had with the coaching search. Was it how long it took? Did they interview too many candiates or not enough?

Personally I think too many people got wrapped up in all the speculation and the misguided info we were receiving and took that stuff as fact.

We certainly can't say the process wasn't thorough. It probably wasn't a conventional process, but at the same time we are so keyed in on the Skins that I think everything in a situation like this is magnified. And of course when you are dealing with a high profile team and owner, that certainly doesn't help matters. I doubt that if Buffalo went through something similar it would have drawn the same amount of national attention.

I'm reserving all judgment on Zorn. To be honest, I don't remember him as a QB and I don't know how people "in the know" really view him. He could be a great hire, or he could be a miserable failure. I simply don't know.

Our staff in place and personel will not allow for a miserable failure. Just will not happen this year. Maybe he could screw this up years down the line but we're solid right now.

Meh. Another blogger trying to make a name for himself by saying something outrageous.

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Meh. Another blogger trying to make a name for himself by saying something outrageous.

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NICE!