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SmootSmack 02-17-2008, 01:11 PM I don't like that people think the moderators aren't entitled to their own opinions. Skins009 started this thread so he put his own opinions up there for scrutiny and debate.
And it's just really interesting to note that he doesn't mention that we made the playoffs with Brunell. Yeah, yeah, I know it was all the defense. That's of course, total bs. Portis, Cooley, Brunell, and Moss all set Redskins and individual records on offense that season (not as positive about Portis actually). His comment about Jansen is completely ignorant (unless Skins009 happens to be Julius Peppers). He doesn't mention that we made the playoffs with our 6th round pick and starter Anthony Montgomery anchoring the middle, or with Reed Doughty stepping in for Sean Taylor (RIP) for the last six weeks of the season, or with CFL stand-out Chris Wilson notching two sacks in the playoff clincher, or with undrafted Stephon Heyer holding it down at RT.
Damn straight it's ignorant. And it should be called out as such.
wolfeskins 02-17-2008, 01:19 PM i'd say the front office has really improved over the last 5 or 6 years. it's just that snyder started off so poorly with the big contracts of washed up players (sanders,george,smith,carrier,etc) ever since then he has been watched and scrutinized by everyone. snyder and VC have made some poor choices and some very good choices in free agency and the draft. i'd rank the skins as better than average, in both free agency and the draft, when compared with the other 31 nfl teams.
skins009 02-17-2008, 01:27 PM I don't like that people think the moderators aren't entitled to their own opinions. Skins009 started this thread so he put his own opinions up there for scrutiny and debate.
And it's just really interesting to note that he doesn't mention that we made the playoffs with Brunell. Yeah, yeah, I know it was all the defense. That's of course, total bs. Portis, Cooley, Brunell, and Moss all set Redskins and individual records on offense that season (not as positive about Portis actually). His comment about Jansen is completely ignorant (unless Skins009 happens to be Julius Peppers). He doesn't mention that we made the playoffs with our 6th round pick and starter Anthony Montgomery anchoring the middle, or with Reed Doughty stepping in for Sean Taylor (RIP) for the last six weeks of the season, or with CFL stand-out Chris Wilson notching two sacks in the playoff clincher, or with undrafted Stephon Heyer holding it down at RT.
Damn straight it's ignorant. And it should be called out as such.
You clearly have forgotten how bad our offense was that first year in the playoffs.
If you want evidence of how bad Jansen is watch the tape of the pre-season this last year. Specifically the titans game.
We've only been making the playoff's because the NFC is so weak. The skins remind me a lot of the chiefs from a couple of years ago who were making the playoffs but clearly were not a solid team.
You can see me prediction above. If your so bold, make your own prediction then we'll see who knows more about football and building a championship franchise.
wolfeskins 02-17-2008, 01:35 PM We've only been making the playoff's because the NFC is so weak.
come on now, that really is a retarded comment.
SmootSmack 02-17-2008, 01:53 PM You clearly have forgotten how bad our offense was that first year in the playoffs.
If you want evidence of how bad Jansen is watch the tape of the pre-season this last year. Specifically the titans game.
We've only been making the playoff's because the NFC is so weak. The skins remind me a lot of the chiefs from a couple of years ago who were making the playoffs but clearly were not a solid team.
You can see me prediction above. If your so bold, make your own prediction then we'll see who knows more about football and building a championship franchise.
Well, I know enough about football to know that while we have made mistakes it doesn't tell the whole story. And I know enough about football to know that there's no point in making predictions before the draft or even free agency has begun.
HGale 02-17-2008, 02:00 PM I think that after the draft and free agency, that the members should make predictions, and those that are right should be awarded some sort of title, and those that are wrong should be put on team "Shortbus" for at least 3 months.
HGale 02-17-2008, 02:27 PM Covering The Redskins: February 16-- Cerrato sheds light on off-season direction for Skins (http://coveringtheredskins.blogspot.com/2008/02/february-16-cerrato-sheds-light-on-off.html)
Looks like Cerrato is taking full responsibilityfor Lloyd and Archuletta.
I don't like that people think the moderators aren't entitled to their own opinions. Skins009 started this thread so he put his own opinions up there for scrutiny and debate.
A turd is a turd and we'll continue to call it that way in the name of encouraging more meaningful discussion.
Defensewins 02-17-2008, 02:40 PM i'd say the front office has really improved over the last 5 or 6 years. it's just that snyder started off so poorly with the big contracts of washed up players (sanders,george,smith,carrier,etc) ever since then he has been watched and scrutinized by everyone. snyder and VC have made some poor choices and some very good choices in free agency and the draft. i'd rank the skins as better than average, in both free agency and the draft, when compared with the other 31 nfl teams.
Five years ago we drafted:
Taylor Jacobs
Derrick Dockery
Gibran Hamdan
Six years ago we drafted:
Patrick Ramsey
Ladell Betts
Clifford Russell
Robert Royal
Reggie Coleman
Jeff Grau
Gregory Scott
Rock Cartwright
Talk about retarded comments.
EARTHQUAKE2689 02-17-2008, 02:42 PM Five years ago we drafted:
Taylor Jacobs
Derrick Dockery
Gibran Hamdan
Six years ago we drafted:
Patrick Ramsey
Ladell Betts
Clifford Russell
Robert Royal
Reggie Coleman
Jeff Grau
Gregory Scott
Rock Cartwright
Talk about retarded comments.
After this off-season only one of those guys will still be on the team
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