Jon Jansen Restructures

I always wondered if a $1 of signing bonus counted less against the salary cap then a $1 of base salary or do players just consider a $1 of signing bonus more valuable then a $5 of base salary. Anyway looks like we're 107k over the cap.

I'm a fan of Jon Jansen. He had two freak injuries at the beginning of two seasons. He played with two broken thumbs. He's a tough S.O.B.

Admit it, some of you guys stayed in bed on a Sunday, feeling Saturday's hangover, while this guy was kicking somebody's butt.

albright is just a 450k hit, and right now the top 51 doesn't matter, because i don't believe we have 51 guys with all the free agents.

I always wondered if a $1 of signing bonus counted less against the salary cap then a $1 of base salary or do players just consider a $1 of signing bonus more valuable then a $5 of base salary. Anyway looks like we're 107k over the cap.

well, if you get hurt, you can lose your base salary, but not the bonus money that's upfront.

on a one year deal, it doesn't matter (SB vs base) as long as you don't get cut midseason.

over 5 seasons, the 1$ sb counts 20 cents each year (but the player gets it all immediately), whereas his base of $5 per season is paid over the season per game that he remains on the team's roster.

lloyd got 10$mill in bonus, so even though he sucks, he's still made a TON of money, and we haven't been able to cut him because of the huge cap hit (10mill over 5-6 years isn't a big deal, but cutting him after one season makes the hit 8$mill just to throw him away or 3mill to keep him... that's the really bad part of high bonus contracts. mistakes are huge and you've got to hit much more than 50% to not hurt your team... lloyd/arch are part of the reason we might not be able to get a guy like briggs or CJ, who would actually help the team get better).

of course briggs or CJ might not be the best way to maximize price/performance under the cap or total starter talent under the cap, but it's just an example.

any chance of Lloyd sticking around with a new coach? i would like to see the skins try one more season with him, because i have to think someone in the front office knew something when they signed him

Well, it looks like 3 more years of Jansen.

I know some of you were saying Jansen was starting to lose his skills in preseason and said Wade could possibly replace him, then it was Heyer.

Well....there are a couple points.
Yes, he showed a little decline, but I think that was due to his injury.

A guy of his character may actually get heavily motivated by all this talk...and though he had a couple injuries....as weird as this may sound....he may lengthen his career.
He did not have wear and tear for 2 years now and that is a good thing.
Assuming he can strengthen his "injured parts", I am now starting to believe that Jansen will be back to his old self doing fine for up to 5 years.

I say....great restruture!

i have to think someone in the front office knew something when they signed himThough this string of logic is usually a safe bet, I think if anyone in the organization had known anything about Lloyd, they wouldn't have made the trade. It made so little sense on so very many levels.

Just a heads up, the analysis I've posted in this thread (and in others) has been refined and is now housed in its own thread where CC and I will periodically make updates.