Dying Girl Denied Chance To Visit Father

It's not about his daughter, it's about him. That's what people are not seeing. I already explained I feel for the daughter, but it's the sins of the father that need to be punished.
Also, while I do feel weed should be legal, if I was caught with it, I would expect there to be consequences. You can't expect to do illegal things then be able to do what you want.
I have also explained in other threads that God put marijuana on this planet for a reason, it's due to ignorance that it's illegal.
Meth on the other hand is a concoction of man, and it's amazingly addictive and kills people. It ruins people's lives. How many people has this man indirectly killed? How many people's lives has he ruined with the Meth he sold them?

I concur

It's not about his daughter, it's about him. That's what people are not seeing. I already explained I feel for the daughter, but it's the sins of the father that need to be punished.

Sorry, this IS about the daughter. Yes, the "sins of the father" need to be punished. As far as I can tell, he is still subject to the sentence he is currently serving, and no one (to my knowledge) is suggesting that his sentence be commuted or that he be paroled. Rather, there is desire by some members of the family to expedite a change in the terms of his incarceration - a change that is due to occur and, as I stated earlier, will create a benefit for an innocent member of the public (the man is scheduled to enter the facility in something like 60 days).

The daughter, who has done no wrong, is being denied a means by which her suffering can be eased - that denial is being done by the State. True, a benefit will accrue to the criminal by the nature of the benefit given to the innocent. So what? the criminal will still be punished by serving his term. Instead, and as I have said earlier, in addition to carrying out the State's mandated punishment, the State can demonstrate that mercy is an element of governance.

Meth on the other hand is a concoction of man, and it's amazingly addictive and kills people. It ruins people's lives. How many people has this man indirectly killed? How many people's lives has he ruined with the Meth he sold them?

And so, the State should contribute to the suffering of one more innocent harmed by this man's dealing of meth?

The father has been and will be continue to be punished by the knowledge that he has been unable to be with his daughter during her time of need (as he continues to serve the final 10 months of his incarceration). Now, on her deathbed, the daughter desires something that the State can grant without compromising the punishment of the criminal. I, for one, think the State should do what it can do to ease her suffering. (You have suggested that the family should blame the father - fine, they may very well be doing so. Perhaps, however, they are more focused on creating a solution for the child and saving there recriminiations until after her death - at which time they will all have a lifetime to hate him).

Rules are rules - we cannot ignore them nor should we have too much compassion for those who break them. At the same time, a slavish dedication to and a merciless application of rules creates a heartless society that ultimately forgets that the rules serve the society, not vice versa.

The daughter, who has done no wrong, is being denied a means by which her suffering can be eased - that denial is being done by the State.

See, this is where we differ. You see it from HER perspective, but in actuality, she is not being denied a thing, he is. She is not bound by any rules, she did nothing wrong. The rules are applying to him, and him only. The fact that the rules are being applied to him means the ones that he loves, and the ones that love him will suffer some, but that's the price that they all pay because of what he did. To ignore the rules or bend them for someone like him means you need to do it for everyone that asks. Are you prepared for that?

I, for one, think the State should do what it can do to ease her suffering.

I don't see why...they are not bound to her in any way. The state has custody of the father, and rightfully so, they have no responsibility to the daughter, and should not be put in this situation.

Rules are rules - we cannot ignore them nor should we have too much compassion for those who break them. At the same time, a slavish dedication to and a merciless application of rules creates a heartless society that ultimately forgets that the rules serve the society, not vice versa.

That's a profound statement, and you are right for the most part. You just need to remember that when you give and inch, people want a mile. There are rules for a reason, and they do not say anything about allowing the father to see his daughter. Rules do serve society, and in this case rules dictate that he not leave prison.
Do you realize that it does cost tax dollars to allow him to leave the prison? I for one do not want my tax dollars going to help a criminal feel a little better about himself.
Again, this is not about the daughter, this is about him.

It's not about his daughter, it's about him. That's what people are not seeing. I already explained I feel for the daughter, but it's the sins of the father that need to be punished.
Also, while I do feel weed should be legal, if I was caught with it, I would expect there to be consequences. You can't expect to do illegal things then be able to do what you want.
I have also explained in other threads that God put marijuana on this planet for a reason, it's due to ignorance that it's illegal.
Meth on the other hand is a concoction of man, and it's amazingly addictive and kills people. It ruins people's lives. How many people has this man indirectly killed? How many people's lives has he ruined with the Meth he sold them?

I must say that I disagree with you and will not budge from my position just as you will not budge from yours. I feel that she should be able to spend her remaining time with her father. Then he should go back and finish his debt to society.

This is one of those instances where political BS can be put aside and an execption to policy should be made. The man is not looking for a pass to go out on the town to pay a conjugal visit to the hookers in Vegas, he is going to spend final quality time with his daughter.

I'm done with this topic.

I must say that I disagree with you and will not budge from my position just as you will not budge from yours. I feel that she should be able to spend her remaining time with her father. Then he should go back and finish his debt to society.

This is one of those instances where political BS can be put aside and an execption to policy should be made. The man is not looking for a pass to go ot on the town to pay a conjugal visit to the hookers in Vegas, he is going to spend final quality time with his daughter.

I'm done with this topic.

I agree.

It's not about his daughter, it's about him. That's what people are not seeing. I already explained I feel for the daughter, but it's the sins of the father that need to be punished.
Also, while I do feel weed should be legal, if I was caught with it, I would expect there to be consequences. You can't expect to do illegal things then be able to do what you want.
I have also explained in other threads that God put marijuana on this planet for a reason, it's due to ignorance that it's illegal.
Meth on the other hand is a concoction of man, and it's amazingly addictive and kills people. It ruins people's lives. How many people has this man indirectly killed? How many people's lives has he ruined with the Meth he sold them?

Given that you frequently acknowledge marijuana use I am surprised by the arrogance and inflexibility of your position. The day you stop habitually committing illegal acts is the day, in my book, you can get on here and condemn someone else for drug related crimes. This is all relative after all, and there are plenty of people who feel you should be in jail just like there are plenty of people who feel meth should be legal.

Well it seemed that the father did not care about his daughter when he was out doing what he did to go to jail but now he does? I did not read the whole story but did he know of her illness before he went to jail?

Well it seemed that the father did not care about his daughter when he was out doing what he did to go to jail but now he does? I did not read the whole story but did he know of her illness before he went to jail?

I believe she's only recently (in the past few months) been diagnosed with terminal brain cancer.

Given that you frequently acknowledge marijuana use I am surprised by the arrogance and inflexibility of your position. The day you stop habitually committing illegal acts is the day, in my book, you can get on here and condemn someone else for drug related crimes. This is all relative after all, and there are plenty of people who feel you should be in jail just like there are plenty of people who feel meth should be legal.

Excuse me sir, but I do not admit to habitually using marijuana. In fact, I have not even smoked a single j in over 8 months.
I have not "habitually" used it since college which was well over a decade ago. Just cause I believe marijuana should be legal, and admit to have used it on occasion over the past decade, does not mean i am a habitual user.
And yes, it does mean I can condemn people for drug related crimes, when the drug is something that kills people and destroys people's lives and families. If you want to compare marijuana and meth in your own head, be my guest, but don't for one second spew that garbage on here. There is no comparison. Meth is a horrible drug. To compare the two is ignorance and quite frankly I expect more from you.

Meth is certainly a terrible drug. And I realize this man has been serving five years for possession and distribution, still I'd like to know exactly what happened and the circumstances surrounding it. Was he some drug kingpin, or did he get caught up in a bad (possible one-time situation) where he saw an instant opportunity to make some money (maybe he was laid off or something) for himself and his family. Considering he's in a minimum security prison I tend to lean toward the latter.

This doesn't mean I think anything related to drugs is ok. I just wish I knew more about his situation.

Either way, it's a very sad situation for the little girl.