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Close but not quite. Mix would be the #2 because ARE is moving to the slot. Please try and keep up.
Maybe not. When they were talking about bringing in DJ Hackett the plan was to still keep ARE at the #2 in most packages.
skinsfan69 03-26-2008, 10:05 AM I certainly think that we could use an upgrade at wide receiver, but I don't think we should use a high draft pick on a wideout. If Jason Campbell can't "get it done" with Moss, ARE, Cooley, Betts and Portis at the skill positions then we are in trouble regardless of whether we add another good wideout. Pro Bowl appearances are over-hyped, but I think it's somewhat meaningful that we have a Pro Bowl RB, TE and WR on our roster. We don't have as much talent at the skill positions as Indy, but we've got enough talent to field a very effective offense.
We need to start finding our new Hogs/Dirtbags. I forsee serious problems along the O-line in the coming years if we don't starting working in new blood immediately.
Are you kidding me? What has Moss and ARE done the last two years? We need someone that can take over a game. Moss and ARE and nice 2nd and 3rd NFL wr's. Nothing more and nothing less.
GMScud 03-26-2008, 11:06 AM Anthony Mix. Really? I've never seen so much hype over a guy who wasn't drafted, has been in the league three years yet has never started a game, and has 3 catches EVER. THREE! At this point he's a been a practice squad to #5 caliber player.
Sure he's tall, but if this guy was a hidden gem, wouldn't he have shown something, anything at this point? I've read that he is a poor route runner and has just average speed for a WR. And people around here are talking about him playing his way into a #2 or #3? Based on what?
This article to me is total hogwash. JLC has nothing else to write about. We tried to get Hackett, and we didn't. We tried to re-sign Caldwell and he went to St. Louis instead. So when asked about Mix, Zorn said, "I like him." What's he supposed to say, "the guy is a bum and I don't like him" ?? Had Hackett or Caldwell been signed and Thrash makes the roster, Mix would be a 4 or 5 at best.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the guy emerge as a playmaker. But I see the chances of that happening as remote. 2009's WR class in the draft isn't exactly loaded, and unless we totally suck and end up with a top 5 pick, Michael Crabtree will be gone. Not drafting a WR this year would be a bad idea. Holding out with the hope of signing Roy Williams for '09 isn't a sound strategy either. I'd like to see a list of what WR's will be FA's next season.
Moss and ARE have constantly battled nagging injuries since signing with the team (except for Santana's 2005 campaign). No reason to think that will change. Mix can't be relied upon to fill in when one or both of them misses a game or two with the usual hamstring pull. IMO there is no rational justification for not drafting/trading for a WR. To do neither and hold out hope that Mix emerges is an awful move.
SmootSmack 03-26-2008, 11:25 AM 2009 Free Agent WRs: Off the top of my head Marques Colston, TJ Housh..., Roy Williams, Bobby Engram, and Taylor Jacobs
GMScud 03-26-2008, 11:37 AM 2009 Free Agent WRs: Off the top of my head Marques Colston, TJ Housh..., Roy Williams, Bobby Engram, and Taylor Jacobs
Oh, Colston would be awesome in B&G. But I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a nice extension from the Saints during the season this year. They drafted Meachem last year and he's been a flop thus far. Housh or Roy W would of course be great, but I just don't agree with not trying to upgrade through the draft (especially since we have a bunch of picks) with the hope we'll be able to sign one of these guys. Given the Chad Johnson situation I think Cincy would be dumb not to give Housh an extension.
Redskin Warrior 03-26-2008, 11:39 AM Anthony Mix. Really? I've never seen so much hype over a guy who wasn't drafted, has been in the league three years yet has never started a game, and has 3 catches EVER. THREE! At this point he's a been a practice squad to #5 caliber player.
Sure he's tall, but if this guy was a hidden gem, wouldn't he have shown something, anything at this point? I've read that he is a poor route runner and has just average speed for a WR. And people around here are talking about him playing his way into a #2 or #3? Based on what?
This article to me is total hogwash. JLC has nothing else to write about. We tried to get Hackett, and we didn't. We tried to re-sign Caldwell and he went to St. Louis instead. So when asked about Mix, Zorn said, "I like him." What's he supposed to say, "the guy is a bum and I don't like him" ?? Had Hackett or Caldwell been signed and Thrash makes the roster, Mix would be a 4 or 5 at best.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the guy emerge as a playmaker. But I see the chances of that happening as remote. 2009's WR class in the draft isn't exactly loaded, and unless we totally suck and end up with a top 5 pick, Michael Crabtree will be gone. Not drafting a WR this year would be a bad idea. Holding out with the hope of signing Roy Williams for '09 isn't a sound strategy either. I'd like to see a list of what WR's will be FA's next season.
Moss and ARE have constantly battled nagging injuries since signing with the team (except for Santana's 2005 campaign). No reason to think that will change. Mix can't be relied upon to fill in when one or both of them misses a game or two with the usual hamstring pull. IMO there is no rational justification for not drafting/trading for a WR. To do neither and hold out hope that Mix emerges is an awful move.
I understand what you are saying but reality is we never used the West Coast Offense with this personnel we have now. Mix probably can be a totally new WR in this system I trust Zorn if he is excited I am too. I believe Mix can be our Marques Colston diamond in the rough.
Redskin Warrior 03-26-2008, 11:41 AM 2009 Free Agent WRs: Off the top of my head Marques Colston, TJ Housh..., Roy Williams, Bobby Engram, and Taylor Jacobs
We all no Jacobs is the best on that list lol!!!!
GMScud 03-26-2008, 11:43 AM I understand what you are saying but reality is we never used the West Coast Offense with this personnel we have now. Mix probably can be a totally new WR in this system I trust Zorn if he is excited I am too. I believe Mix can be our Marques Colston diamond in the rough.
My point is, Mix didn't do much in college, and hasn't done much in the pros. To stand pat at WR with the baseless hope he emerges as a playmaker isn't smart. Upgrade through the draft and still give Mix his shot. That's my opinion anyway. Guys like Marques Colston (6th or 7th round pick turned immediate stud) happen once a decade. And Colston was a beast in college, Mix was not.
I think we'll still look to the draft for a WR. I wouldn't take this Mix article as an indication that the team feels they are completely set at WR.
GTripp0012 03-26-2008, 11:48 AM Are you kidding me? What has Moss and ARE done the last two years? We need someone that can take over a game. Moss and ARE and nice 2nd and 3rd NFL wr's. Nothing more and nothing less.Chris Cooley (http://www.nfl.com/players/chriscooley/profile?id=COO376642)
Glad that one's settled.
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