70Chip
04-20-2008, 12:25 PM
Hamas are a bunch of morons. They're endorsing Obama because of the three candidates, he's the one they believe will let them get away with more crap. They wouldn't necessarily be correct in thinking that - I see no reason to believe Obama won't take a hard line against terrorists. He may pull out of Iraq, but that's entirely different from how he'd handle a group like Hamas.
None of the three candidates are likely to recognize Hamas or negotiate with them. The only difference between the three candidates is that McCain is willing to be openly hostile with them.
I can't possibly imagine better foreign policy than that. To me, foreign policy does not need to be defined by doing what's in the best interest of making peace. It's doing what's in the best interests of the United States, even if it doesn't earn you friends. Fuck Hamas, they can all die.
I think the fact that his name is "Baraq Hussein Obama" may have helped sway them as well. If someone named "Charles W. Jones" were running for President of Iran, I would definitely be tempted to endorse him.
firstdown
04-21-2008, 09:06 AM
For Obama supporters what is his stance on groups like Hamas?
12thMan
04-21-2008, 09:28 AM
For Obama supporters what is his stance on groups like Hamas?
“That’s why I have a fundamental difference with President Carter and disagree with his decision to meet with Hamas,” Obama said. “We must not negotiate with a terrorist group intent on Israel’s destruction. We should only sit down with Hamas if they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel’s right to exist and abide by past agreements.”
“Hamas is not a state. Hamas is a terrorist organization,” he said.
- Barack Obama
70Chip
04-22-2008, 10:55 PM
“That’s why I have a fundamental difference with President Carter and disagree with his decision to meet with Hamas,” Obama said. “We must not negotiate with a terrorist group intent on Israel’s destruction. We should only sit down with Hamas if they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel’s right to exist and abide by past agreements.”
“Hamas is not a state. Hamas is a terrorist organization,” he said.
- Barack Obama
Has Jeremiah Wright recognized Israel's right to exist yet?
onlydarksets
04-22-2008, 10:59 PM
Here's a cite for that:
Obama criticizes ex-President Carter's Hamas meeting | Politics | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1636948020080416?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true)
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
04-22-2008, 11:00 PM
Has Jeremiah Wright recognized Israel's right to exist yet?
Should that even matter? It's not as though Reverend Wright is running for office and Obama has made clear that Israel does in fact have the right to exist.
70Chip
04-22-2008, 11:17 PM
It's important to me that The President be comitted to Israel. I think Obama could take it or leave it. Totally unacceptable.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
04-22-2008, 11:21 PM
It's important to me that The President be comitted to Israel. I think Obama could take it or leave it. Totally unacceptable.
Do you really think Obama would abandon the Israelis? I can't imagine that he ever would or would ever want to and have seen nothing that makes me think otherwise. To do so would be political suicide and Obama knows it.
70Chip
04-22-2008, 11:29 PM
Do you really think Obama would abandon the Israelis? I can't imagine that he ever would or would ever want to and have seen nothing that makes me think otherwise. To do so would be political suicide and Obama knows it.
Perhaps you're right, buy by the same token if he wasn't comitted to defending them he wouldn't tell us. And I believe that fight is coming. I don't think most Americans appreciate the depth of the anti-semitism that Arabs feel. At the recent talks that were held in Washington the Jews had to use the service entrance because The Saudis didn't want to walk through the same door as them. The Arabs are waiting patiently for an opportunity to attack again.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
04-22-2008, 11:33 PM
Perhaps you're right, buy by the same token if he wasn't comitted to defending them he wouldn't tell us. And I believe that fight is coming. I don't think most Americans appreciate the depth of the anti-semitism that Arabs feel. At the recent talks that were held in Washington the Jews had to use the service entrance because The Saudis didn't want to walk through the same door as them. The Arabs are waiting patiently for an opportunity to attack again.
I wouldn't be too worried about Israel. First, the Israelis have the best military in the Middle East. Second, the last time other countries tried to invade Israel they got their asses handed to them. Third, unlike last time, the Israelis have nukes. They're fine. They don't need our military assistance.