Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)

Change of tactics: Redskins put draft ahead of free agency - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-redskins-draft&prov=ap&type=lgns)

News article on Skins draft plans.

This article echoes a lot that has been said on this forum today in regard to drafting and free agency.

There are also some interesting facts on the Redskins past couple of drafts at the end.

Are the Skins the only team with guys over 30?

I'd like to see how they compare with other teams before I slit my wrists.

What gets me is that when we are discussing players like Jason Campbell, whom we love, the main point is, "he is still young" and "we should give him a chance to grow", when he will be 27 at the end of the year but when we discuss players who's only a few year older who we may not want, like Chad Johnson, the age suddenly becomes a problem .

It is like a NFL player only have three years between growing and becoming too old to play at certain level.

What gets me is that when we are discussing players like Jason Campbell, whom we love, the main point is, "he is still young" and "we should give him a chance to grow", when he will be 27 at the end of the year but when we discuss players who's only a few year older who we may not want, like Chad Johnson, the age suddenly becomes a problem .

It is like a NFL player only have three years between growing and becoming too old to play at certain level.Campbell plays Quarterback. They take the longest to develop, and are also useful into their late thirties.

Chad Johnson does not play Quarterback.

Campbell plays Quarterback. They take the longest to develop, and are also useful into their late thirties.

Chad Johnson does not play Quarterback.

see my point?

One of my favorite things to do on days where theres big news, (as Smootsmack alluded to before) especially news about events in progress, is to watch the number of new threads started by the guys over at ES. Some of my favorites from today are

EXTREMESKINS.com - Whatever trade Snyder does we overpay (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245035)
EXTREMESKINS.com - Cincy turns down two 1st rounders for Ocho Cinco (all things #85 trade - merged 4x) (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244957) - Merged 4 times!!!!
EXTREMESKINS.com - Dan & Vinny Duped Us / Danny please sell the team / #85 Offer Vent Thread (Merged) (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244967) - 3 Different threads!!!
EXTREMESKINS.com - Imagine what the potential offense will be like with Ocho Cinco (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245006)
EXTREMESKINS.com - Will Bengals File Tampering Charges? (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245009)
EXTREMESKINS.com - Did you REALLY think that Synder Could Go the WHOLE Offseason? (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245038)
EXTREMESKINS.com - how did the dolphins affect the draft (skins related) (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245001)
EXTREMESKINS.com - Redskins not all that popular among Canadians.... (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135884)

LOL yeah I always find them to be amusing as well

Wow. Those figures scream out for an infusion of youth especially at O-line. Sooner or later the front five will start dropping like flies. Well ... that actually already happened last season for a stretch. We have to start bolstering a restocking for the future. And we have to start now.

I agree. I'd really like to see us use at least 2 picks along the OL in this draft.

Hell I wouldn't even hate the idea of using a 2nd rounder. And then maybe a later round project type of pick.

I agree. I'd really like to see us use at least 2 picks along the OL in this draft.

Hell I wouldn't even hate the idea of using a 2nd rounder. And then maybe a later round project type of pick.

I predict an 80% chance that the team takes two O-lineman if they wait till the 3rd-comp pick to take an Offensive Lineman. I say this because the team has a history of taking two guys at the same position late when they have a need that wasn't addressed earlier in the draft. (Montgomery and Kedric Golston/ Dallas Startz and HB Blades/ Jim Molinaro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Molinaro) and Mark Wilson). Of course most of these were 5th round/6th round combinations where as this year I would expect to see a 3rd/5th combo

He was too busy smoking crack or something. :)

Ocho Cinco and his agent be the ones busy smokin crack!

Sorry, but my fundamental aversion to Chad Johnson is that he is not a "Redskin" and we have other needs to address with our draft picks. We have plenty of vets at WR, I'd like to have a young, hungry one in there that we can think long long term with. If he was on the Skins and he was acting like he is now, disrespecting his team and coach, it would be embarrassing, and Snyder would send him off to Laveranues Lavar Land. Also, ....the huge contract, ...we need to look to the future. Just my opinion.

What gets me is that when we are discussing players like Jason Campbell, whom we love, the main point is, "he is still young" and "we should give him a chance to grow", when he will be 27 at the end of the year but when we discuss players who's only a few year older who we may not want, like Chad Johnson, the age suddenly becomes a problem .

It is like a NFL player only have three years between growing and becoming too old to play at certain level.

IMO, there is a world of a difference between a 26 year old and a 30 year old. Four years is an awful long time in terms of a football career. Four years ago: Spurrier had just left the building, Trung Canidate was on the roster, Patrick Ramsey was competing for the starting QB role, Bruce Smith had just broken the sack record, Sean Taylor wasn't on the roster, Laron Landry was a freshman in college and Jon Jansen was one of the most dominant right tackles in football. The following players were coming off of Pro Bowl berths: Steve McNair, Stephen Davis, Priest Holmes, Fred Beasley, Keenan McCardell, Dexter Coakley, Peter Boulware, Troy Vincent, Jerry Azumah, Brock Marion, Aeneas Williams, Jerome Woods. A lot happens in 4 years.

At 26, a wideout is on the cusp of entering the prime of his career. At 30, a wideout is about to see his skills erode. Would you buy a stock if you knew it's value would only decrease over the coming years? If not, why would you trade for a player who is at the apex of his career and is only going to decrease in value?

I know Matty and others have mentioned this before, but Urlacher is really amping up his demands, promising to boycott minicamp if not given a new contract, in spite of signing a deal only 3 or so years ago making him one of the highest paid LB's in football. And yet there have been no character assaults or derogatory nicknames directed toward him.

Not enough people point out that the Bengals have squandered a Superbowl roster in only 3 short years, and are inarguably one of the worst run teams in football. Why can't Chad's trade requests be related to him wanting to win?