Updated: Landry Reports to OTAs, Springs Still a No-Show

Didn't we already go through this once with a hard hitting young safety with a propensity to make a few bonehead plays? Don't read too much into this folks, it didn't hurt Sean and I doubt that it will be a big factor in regards to the development of Laron Landry.

Yeah I think as long as voluntary is used i'm not concerned. Would you like for them to be there? Of course. They are big boys though. It's voluntary.

Didn't we already go through this once with a hard hitting young safety with a propensity to make a few bonehead plays? Don't read too much into this folks, it didn't hurt Sean and I doubt that it will be a big factor in regards to the development of Laron Landry.

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I remember going through this same discussion with Springs last year, but it's funny I don't recall many people backing him up like now.

Of course Zorn isn't happy about it. He shouldn't be. But at the end of the day there's not a damn thing that he or anyone else can do about it.

Didn't we already go through this once with a hard hitting young safety with a propensity to make a few bonehead plays? Don't read too much into this folks, it didn't hurt Sean and I doubt that it will be a big factor in regards to the development of Laron Landry.

I don't think it will be a big factor either. But the guy has flaked on numerous autograph signing commitments, is a walking unsportsmanlike penalty, and is now flaking on offseason workouts. I think he's a phenomenal player, but thus far he's also proven he's kind of a punk.

I wanted to name this thread "Landry continues to prove he's a punk," but I would have been negative repped into my Warpath grave. ;)

I don't think it will be a big factor either. But the guy has flaked on numerous autograph signing commitments, is a walking unsportsmanlike penalty, and is now flaking on offseason workouts. I think he's a phenomenal player, but thus far he's also proven he's kind of a punk.

I wanted to name this thread "Landry continues to prove he's a punk," but I would have been negative repped into my Warpath grave. ;)

There were people who proposed that the team cut Sean Taylor after his rookie season for all of the "trouble" he was getting into. He was suspended for a game by Gibbs, had the whole gun charge BS to work through and (somehow this drew a lot of anger) he wanted to changes his number. Laron Landry is a kid, he'll probably see the light in a few more seasons of being around veterans and start to act more like a professional, but I don't think we've got any reason to get bent out of shape.

There were people who proposed that the team cut Sean Taylor after his rookie season for all of the "trouble" he was getting into. He was suspended for a game by Gibbs, had the whole gun charge BS to work through and (somehow this drew a lot of anger) he wanted to changes his number. Laron Landry is a kid, he'll probably see the light in a few more seasons of being around veterans and start to act more like a professional, but I don't think we've got any reason to get bent out of shape.

I hope you're right. Make no mistake, I'm not "freaking out" over this, I just think it's a mild concern worth discussing.

Laron's behavior does warrant some criticism.

Why don't we post an actual quote from Zorn (according to the link from the first post here)

"I'm going to try to get a feel for why they didn't want to come ...It's not something that I'm going to make a huge spectacle of. We'll just see what happens."

There's also this (http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2008/Jun/02/redskins-personnel-update/), which I actually find more peculiar. Either way, not a huge deal.

"While Zorn and defensive coordinator Greg Blache said that they hadn't heard from the missing defensive backs, teammates said they had heard from them and that each had missed his flight."

Why don't we post an actual quote from Zorn (according to the link from the first post here)

"I'm going to try to get a feel for why they didn't want to come ...It's not something that I'm going to make a huge spectacle of. We'll just see what happens."

There's also this (http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2008/Jun/02/redskins-personnel-update/), which I actually find more peculiar. Either way, not a huge deal.

"While Zorn and defensive coordinator Greg Blache said that they hadn't heard from the missing defensive backs, teammates said they had heard from them and that each had missed his flight."

Bah, it's more fun to just jump to conclusions without knowing the entire story.

There were people who proposed that the team cut Sean Taylor after his rookie season for all of the "trouble" he was getting into. He was suspended for a game by Gibbs, had the whole gun charge BS to work through and (somehow this drew a lot of anger) he wanted to changes his number. Laron Landry is a kid, he'll probably see the light in a few more seasons of being around veterans and start to act more like a professional, but I don't think we've got any reason to get bent out of shape.

It seems to me that your point actually proves the opposite point. Taylor had to go to the precipice (and have a child) before he really started growing up. I really hope Landry doesn't have to go that far. The point is that that the Redskins should cut ties with Landry, that is absurd and not one person is saying anything approaching that, it is that Landry is displaying a pattern of behavior that indicates he has some maturing left to do (and that extends onto the playing field so even if you say nothing outside of the gridiron matters than there still is cause for some concern). The odds are he'll play fine on the field, demonstrate tremendous athleticism, make some spectacular plays, but I think he also has some maturing left to do (which is not an issue for Springs, another thing that separates the two).

I also don't really like the 'he's just a kid' excuse. I'm only 2 1/2 years older than Landry and I can't just blow off committments (I know OTA's are 'voluntary', but as GMScud points out this sort of decision making extends to other arenas as well). And if I did there would be consequences. Come on.