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SkinzzFan 07-12-2008, 03:19 PM I really hope Danny Boy resists. Didn't he bring in Zorn specifically to help Campbell? Signing (or trading for) Favre won't help. Maybe the Skins win a few more games upfront with #4 but I don't think the Skins are legitimate Superbowl contenders even with Favre. That's exactly why we stay the course with Campbell and let him grow into the role with the players we now have (Moss, Cooley, Randle El, Thomas, Kelly, etc.). It's all about chemistry and continuity and we can't get that if the Oompa Loompa (Snyder) keeps jacking it up with spending and signing just for the sake of making a splash. I've had enough false hope in the Snyder era, it's time for the Skins to get back to being perennial contenders. Danny needs to just sit on his booster seat up in his luxury box and enjoy the games like a fan (with a ton of money!).
Giantone 07-12-2008, 03:40 PM Ok, as a fan of another team may I just say I would love for the Skins to get Farve.Please bring him in ...better yet trade for him really make it a 3 ring circus and lets not forget what it would do to JC to be "benched"..........wait ,did you think Farve would sit on the bench and be a back up?Yes the Skins need him.:rofl:
budw38 07-12-2008, 03:51 PM Hell no! I'd honestly rather talk about Mark Brunell, Lavar Arrington or Patrick Ramsey then Farve. I can't believe you would even waste time on this subject. But you're a mod and you can do what ever the hell you want. Favre would be almost impossible to fit under the cap . If he did come here , we would probably look to trade JC , and I doubt the skins would go that route . As far as MB , Ramsey and LA , they are washed up , Favre would give us a shot at a championship if we got some breaks . For one , I hope he stays in GB and JC becomes our best QB since J. Theismann .
Slingin Sammy 33 07-12-2008, 04:07 PM If Brett Favre came out and says "I want to play for the Washington Redskins," I think this becomes a very interesting story.
I mean, it wouldn't retard Jason Campbell's development at all to sit for half a season or so and slow some things down, but I don't even think its a certainty that Favre would win a QB competition if he came here.This would be devastating to not only Campbell's development but also his timing with the WRs in Zorn's offense. Favre certainly isn't going anywhere to be a back-up. Look at the headaches he's created for GB, imagine what a nightmare putting him on the bench would create. The local media and ESPN would be foaming at the mouth.
Additionally, he's 39, and the attrition rate for 39 year old QBs is through the roof (or floor, depending on how you picture it). QBs tend to stay pretty good into their late 30's (see: Brunell, Mark), but once 40 years old starts breathing down their neck, their game could fall off the map at any time (see: Brunell, Mark or Testeverde, Vincent).Mark Brunell is not a good example of a QB who played "pretty good" in his late 30s. He was done at 36 and while statistically solid in 2005, I don't think anyone would argue his arm strength was shot when he got here.
Bringing in Favre would be a terrible mistake. SS mentioned Favre is less of a gunslinger. He was last year, but who's to say without McCarthy (he did do a great job with Favre BTW) he won't revert to his 2005 or 2006 form when he threw 29 & 18 INTs respectively. He's also had some pretty untimely INTs in the playoffs in 2004 & 2007. From a cap perspective, I know the front office folks are cap wizards, but I'm not sure even they could make this work anyway.
Rooster 07-12-2008, 05:42 PM The Overwhelming amount of no votes suggests to me that members of this site have a high football IQ. Signing Favre would do nothing but set this franchise back. While it does make sense in some regards (Snyder loves big names, Zorn learned from Holmgren who coached Favre, Favre knows the West coast offense) it would only hurt the team in the long run. Favre would get a big fat 2 year deal and possibly take us to the playoffs. By the time he retired…again, Campbell probably would have moved on and we would once again be looking for another QB. That would be our 18th quarterback in 16 seasons mind you. So the 5 years spent grooming Campbell is a waist and unless we think that Colt Brennan is our future it is a bad move. However, I would not be surprised at all if Snyder pursued this. I wrote a post on my blog explaining why Snyder might take a shot at signing Favre.
SmootSmack 07-12-2008, 07:44 PM What if, just what if, he did come here for one year and miracle of miracles he led us to a Super Bowl win. But then he retires and we go back to Campbell (who would have just missed another year of playing experience)?
Would you be happy that we won the Super Bowl, or frustrated that "what was it all worth if we just potentially sacrificed a year in growing the team for long-term success?"
Giantone 07-12-2008, 08:26 PM What if, just what if, he did come here for one year and miracle of miracles he led us to a Super Bowl win. But then he retires and we go back to Campbell (who would have just missed another year of playing experience)?
Would you be happy that we won the Super Bowl, or frustrated that "what was it all worth if we just potentially sacrificed a year in growing the team for long-term success?"
I'll bet that sounds alot like the talk that was going around about "Gibbs" coming out of retirment.............."What If".................,how did that work out and please understand I'm just saying let JC play and forget Farve ...move on.:food-smil
vallin21 07-12-2008, 08:32 PM Im not sold on JC and I want to win now. With that said Farve is very very very risky. Hes been a high risk/ high reward player his whole career. So I want to say no to the idea but with Synder you never know what can happen.
Slingin Sammy 33 07-12-2008, 08:36 PM What if, just what if, he did come here for one year and miracle of miracles he led us to a Super Bowl win. But then he retires and we go back to Campbell (who would have just missed another year of playing experience)?
Would you be happy that we won the Super Bowl, or frustrated that "what was it all worth if we just potentially sacrificed a year in growing the team for long-term success?"
IF we could look into the crystal ball and know he'd bring us a SB, no brainer, of course we bring him in and get the SB.
However, absent the crystal ball I don't think we take the risk on him as the percentages are much less IMO that he could take us there. That chance is not worth the risk of losing a year of development for Campbell and the entire offense. Plus it also puts us into Campbell's final contract year (2009) without having a good read on where he ultimately is and do we invest long-term in him.
GTripp0012 07-12-2008, 09:06 PM This would be devastating to not only Campbell's development but also his timing with the WRs in Zorn's offense. Favre certainly isn't going anywhere to be a back-up. Look at the headaches he's created for GB, imagine what a nightmare putting him on the bench would create. The local media and ESPN would be foaming at the mouth.If Brett Favre isn't willing to compete for the No. 1 job, there's really no chance he comes back anyway. There is nowhere (save Oakland and maybe Tampa) where he could come in at this point in the year and be named the starter as soon as he signs.
Peter King thinks he wants to play in Minnesota, but what if Brad Childress decides that Tavaris Jackson should get the first shot? Then Favre has to wait his turn...which he would have to do in Green Bay.
I still don't think he's actually going to come back, and this is only an issue if he decides that he wants to play for the Redskins.
Bringing in Favre would be a terrible mistake. SS mentioned Favre is less of a gunslinger. He was last year, but who's to say without McCarthy (he did do a great job with Favre BTW) he won't revert to his 2005 or 2006 form when he threw 29 & 18 INTs respectively. He's also had some pretty untimely INTs in the playoffs in 2004 & 2007. From a cap perspective, I know the front office folks are cap wizards, but I'm not sure even they could make this work anyway.Cap won't be an issue, and I think he's a pretty safe bet to revert back to 2006 levels (18 INTs) no matter where he plays.
But Campbell's development wouldn't get destroyed by having to sit a few games (not even a whole season) behind Favre. I don't think Favre would be an on field improvement over Campbell at his age, but if Favre wants to come here (and there is zero evidence to support this), it makes sense to at least give him an ear.
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