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firstdown 08-13-2008, 01:01 PM Thank you for getting my simple point.
But you call us out when we say Clinton was part of a problem and stuff like that. Which was my point.
70Chip 08-13-2008, 01:22 PM I can't believe a lawyer would cheat on his wife. I'm going to have to take some time to re-evaluate my shaken worldview.
But seriously, Edwards political career was over a long time ago anyway.
Two failed runs for the nomination should be the limit for serious candidates. After that you're basically in Joe Biden territory.
But you call us out when we say Clinton was part of a problem and stuff like that. Which was my point.
Apples and oranges. I'm at least sticking to the general topic of cheating politicians. When we're talking about issues involving the current administration and you just want to keep piling it back on previous administrations I just think that's lame and passing the buck.
GhettoDogAllStars 08-13-2008, 01:42 PM I guess I'm in the minority here, because I actually *do* care if a politician cheats on his wife. It is a sign of weak character, and if you're concerned with lobbyists influencing the government, then you better damn sure be concerned about a politician's character. To me, there is nothing more important about a person than their character -- be it a politician, trash collector, or otherwise.
SmootSmack 08-13-2008, 01:43 PM John Edwards offered some advice to Russia in their conflict with Georgia:
"Russia better pull out quickly or they will be in trouble."
LOL. Shame that this post got lost in the midst of everything else
Lady Brave 08-13-2008, 01:53 PM I guess I'm in the minority here, because I actually *do* care if a politician cheats on his wife. It is a sign of weak character, and if you're concerned with lobbyists influencing the government, then you better damn sure be concerned about a politician's character. To me, there is nothing more important about a person than their character -- be it a politician, trash collector, or otherwise.
Thank you.
Anyone who assumes a position of leadership should be held to a higher standard. To whom much is given, much is required.
Perhaps it is a shame that in today's society this stuff has become so common that it doesn't even bother us. Yeah it's a knock on their character, but everyone makes mistakes both big and small. It's how they recover from it that is telling to me.
dmek25 08-13-2008, 02:04 PM Thank you.
Anyone who assumes a position of leadership should be held to a higher standard. To whom much is given, much is required.
i don't know if i agree with this. people look at J.F.K as a great leader. that man fooled around more then alittle. i think there are 2 separate issues. i think great leaders don't have to be morally perfect. as long as they can make good, crisp decisions, in time of stress. im not sure where the weak character, as someone else said, comes into play
jsarno 08-13-2008, 02:04 PM I guess I'm in the minority here, because I actually *do* care if a politician cheats on his wife. It is a sign of weak character, and if you're concerned with lobbyists influencing the government, then you better damn sure be concerned about a politician's character. To me, there is nothing more important about a person than their character -- be it a politician, trash collector, or otherwise.
I think most of us do care. But as matty pointed out, we are used to it. It's virtually impossible to be a politician with high character.
GhettoDogAllStars 08-13-2008, 02:25 PM Perhaps it is a shame that in today's society this stuff has become so common that it doesn't even bother us. Yeah it's a knock on their character, but everyone makes mistakes both big and small. It's how they recover from it that is telling to me.
You're right. Ultimately, the true test of a person's character is how they react to adversity, and how they overcome their mistakes. I guess cheating on my wife is just a mistake that I would never make. I'm not insinuating any of you guys would do that. There are just some things that are really hard to forgive.
As for a President's character, I want them to do the "right" thing. The morally right thing -- not the right thing for America. It may sound silly, but I'd much rather people base their decisions on morals rather than nationalism, security, etc. -- even if it meant trouble for the country. Unfortunately, that is not how government is designed to work.
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