The Official Debate Thread (Round 1)

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Beemnseven
09-27-2008, 10:26 AM
There weren't really any knock-out punches, no major gaffes. I just thought McCain appeared really tense, but that's his usual demeanor.

The one thing I took from it was how well Obama articulated this thoughts without a teleprompter. That was something Limbaugh, Hannity and other right wingers have said over and over, that without a prepared script, Obama cannot think on his feet, and that he has trouble speaking in coherent sentences. Which is an incredible comment from them, considering the speaking abilities of the current occupant of the White House. Obama had no problems last night on that front.

I just wish McCain would have responded to the 'tax breaks for the oil companies' claim by saying something like, "fine -- you go right ahead and nail the oil companies to the wall with higher taxes. What do you think that will do to the price of gas?"

Also on that note -- a tax break is not "giving" more money to anyone. A tax break allows people, or corporations to keep more of the money that they earn. Government isn't "giving" them anything because the money didn't belong to government in the first place.

It would have been nice for McCain to hit Obama with that.

724Skinsfan
09-27-2008, 11:17 AM
I thought Obama's only big gaffe was not making it a point to remember the name on the bracelet he was wearing. Kind made me think that someone behind the scenes gave it to him at the last minute because it would look good. McCain's "I will veto any bill...." remark was too close-sounding to Clinton's statement to Congress way back when.

In short, they both have some more polishing before next Thursday (Oct 2nd?).

12thMan
09-27-2008, 11:20 AM
I think it was a solid outing for both candidates. Debates should be boring, and in that sense the candidates supplied the pundits and the opponent with very little amunition.

I think Obama did better, or should I say improved his position more. Not so much because he out dueled John McCain, but because voters had more questions about Obama than they did about McCain. So Obama went a lot further to assuage some of those concerns and doubts. The experience argument didn't stick during the Primary and it won't stick now. The experience argument is good fodder for Fox news and Rudi Guilliani, but they're not the ones deciding this election. We're inside 40 days until E-day, and Obama hasn't gotten this far because people are concerned about his experience or lack thereof.

Here's how I see this thing playing itself out. On the campaign trail, not during the debates. People will scrutinize the day-to-day activities of these campaigns more than ever now. And I hate to say it or bring it up, but the fact that Sarah Palin was not available for the spin interviews afterwards, while Joe Biden was on almost every major network last night, speaks volumes. If Biden is smart and prepared, he'll stick to the script and let the debate flow to him instead of the opposite. No need to go for the Palin.

MTK
09-27-2008, 12:17 PM
All I know is HD is not McCain's friend. The guy looks like he has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

saden1
09-27-2008, 04:52 PM
How can you look Putin in the eyes if you can't look at Obama let alone look him in the eyes? How can you look anyone in the eye if you don't sit down with them? I wonder if using binoculars or spy satellite to look people in the eyes counts?

As for Obama saying "he's right about that" I guess the "but" part of his speech isn't important.

p.s. I am so looking forward to the VP debate so I can post more Youtube videos of Palin.

saden1
09-27-2008, 05:51 PM
Oh screw it, I can't wait that long...I have a video of Bevis of Bevis and Butthead fame:

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That Guy
09-27-2008, 11:40 PM
obama did the same thing, so i'm not really sure what that youtube is supposed to prove... there was definitely obama smirking and looking away when i watched it.

DynamiteRave
09-27-2008, 11:58 PM
obama did the same thing, so i'm not really sure what that youtube is supposed to prove... there was definitely obama smirking and looking away when i watched it.

Smirking and looking away and not making eye contact when speaking to your opponent are two totally different things.

I was taught to look at the person you're debating while also switching to make eye contact with your audience.

firstdown
09-28-2008, 12:28 AM
Obama does not even knows who he is running against and kept calling John, Jim.

jsarno
09-28-2008, 12:48 AM
I thought it was a clear slam dunk for McCain. Obama agreed with McCain A LOT, and there were several questions that were asked directly to Obama and he circumvented the questions.
All in all, seemed like McCain bitch clapped Obama.

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