Takeuon
10-20-2008, 12:04 PM
We made some boneheaded personnel moves, to be sure, under Gibbs the past four years. But you have to be an idiot (or think that the only measure of success the past four years is how many Super Bowls we won, or didn't win) not to recognize the foundation that Gibbs built for Zorn to succeed. And look, that's not to take anything away from Zorn. Not everyone can take talent developed by another coach and lead them and take them to another level. And I have no doubt that Zorn will one day win with his players. But right now, with maybe the exception of Horton I suppose, he's winning with the guys brought in under Gibbs.
Campbell, Portis, Moss, ARE, Cooley, Golston, Griffin, Washington, Landry, Rogers, McIntosh, Blades, Montgomery, Heyer, Kendall, even Suisham. Those guys (along with others) have been buidling as a team long before Zorn arrived.
True, the players were there. But for him to have begun to win so quickly implementing a totally new system, is what makes it so special. No question that if we go into the playoffs (god bless) having a 1st year at helm coach, with NO previous HC experience, would not be anything short of incredible!
SmootSmack
10-20-2008, 12:19 PM
True, the players were there. But for him to have begun to win so quickly implementing a totally new system, is what makes it so special. No question that if we go into the playoffs (god bless) having a 1st year at helm coach, with NO previous HC experience, would not be anything short of incredible!
Well, I think our passing game will tke off sooner than later. It's already shown signs thanks in large part to the maturation of Campbell (and Zorn's tutelage). But the bread and butter of this team so far has been defense and the running game. Defense is Blache running a much more simplified version of what Williams ran, and the running game philosophy is largely (if not entirely) a product of Gibbs and Bugel.
44ever
12-15-2008, 09:10 PM
So I'm as happy as a pig in sh*t! A serious and down right TEAM win today! That being said....over our last few wins I have felt like Zorn has this "connection" with the team. Something that was missing before. And I think his personal attention to Campbell is really key.
My point is, we were all a little concerned when he was hired a HC. But maybe his youth is what makes him understand today's game better. (Hell of a call on 4th & 1 today) And allows him to have a closer connection to the entire team.
Sorry Joe G....I love ya. But maybe the game had passed you by.
Ahhhhhhh the good old days! Very interesting to re read these posts. Amazing how fast almost everyone changed there tune. Fun!!!
YellowBirdy
12-15-2008, 09:37 PM
I can't help thinking that reactivating these old threads (thank God I haven’t contributed to any of them so far) is a little bit cruel. There is nothing worse than a disillusioned believer. I think we all fall in to that category a little bit this year.
44ever
12-15-2008, 09:55 PM
I can't help thinking that reactivating these old threads (thank God I haven’t contributed to any of them so far) is a little bit cruel. There is nothing worse than a disillusioned believer. I think we all fall in to that category a little bit this year.
yea. Well can't blame the fans. We seem to be the only part of the Skins that still cares about winning. Sorry for activating this thread but after stumbling across it I could not help it. It's so contrasting to our current threads. Unfortunatly.
rypper11
12-15-2008, 10:04 PM
You can blame the fans too....
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/26422-f-selling-tickets-to-visiting-team.html
maroonandblack30
12-15-2008, 11:33 PM
You can blame the fans too....
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/26422-f-selling-tickets-to-visiting-team.html
Honestly, if fans really want to have any part in helping the Skins return to greatness....they should sell their tickets.
Once the fans stop rewarding Snyder for putting a mediocre product on the field MAYBE he will actually get a clue and get a legit GM and stop running the team like fanatasy owner with no patience.
44ever
12-15-2008, 11:41 PM
Honestly, if fans really want to have any part in helping the Skins return to greatness....they should sell their tickets.
Once the fans stop rewarding Snyder for putting a mediocre product on the field MAYBE he will actually get a clue and get a legit GM and stop running the team like fanatasy owner with no patience.
imagine what a empty FedEx field could do. It's the only way to get Snyders attension. Hit his wallet! Never happen though and he knows it.