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firstdown 10-21-2008, 01:07 PM I'm not saying that they don't have it readily available, just that there are many that can't afford it, more specifically those that still need psychological treatment.
Not sure about the cost for veterans health insurance so I won't comment. The part about psychological treatment is correct but its very tough to make these people come in for treatment and allot of them just don't go because they are embarassed. Its there for them its just not very many take advantage of the help.
70Chip 10-21-2008, 01:08 PM What decent people? And who's the we? We upstanding, moral Republicans?
Shouldn't you be posting in the Liberal = Anti American thread? :spank:
I'll post anywhwre I want, since I am a member of "We".
DynamiteRave 10-21-2008, 01:10 PM I'll post anywhwre I want, since I am a member of "We".
You still haven't defined we.
firstdown 10-21-2008, 01:10 PM Just remember. In politics, like football, nothing is ever as good or as bad as it seems. These so called "mandate" elections can be very short-lived. Once all all the Obama kiddies go back to their dismal, solipsistic lives, then decent people will begin to fight back. This is our country. We own it, and we always will.
Ok, I'm not a fan of Obama but I do not agree with your statement.
DynamiteRave 10-21-2008, 01:12 PM Not sure about the cost for veterans health insurance so I won't comment. The part about psychological treatment is correct but its very tough to make these people come in for treatment and allot of them just don't go because they are embarassed. Its there for them its just not very many take advantage of the help.
Also because at some point, they'd have to pay, I would think? Lots of men were getting treatment but due the folding of many centers back in the day, either fell through the cracks or couldn't go to another hospital (for whatever reason, good or bad).
And even with insurance (which some companies don't even cover) it's a bitch to pay for psych evaluations and a therapist and medicine.
Granted, you do have a point, many don't go out of embarrassment.
DynamiteRave 10-21-2008, 01:14 PM Ok, I'm not a fan of Obama but I do not agree with your statement.
Which is saying a lot. For you as a Conservative and me as a Liberal. Yes, we can reach across the aisle after all and agree. :grouphug:
firstdown 10-21-2008, 03:05 PM Also because at some point, they'd have to pay, I would think? Lots of men were getting treatment but due the folding of many centers back in the day, either fell through the cracks or couldn't go to another hospital (for whatever reason, good or bad).
And even with insurance (which some companies don't even cover) it's a bitch to pay for psych evaluations and a therapist and medicine.
Granted, you do have a point, many don't go out of embarrassment.
Ins co. have to cover this now days and its one reason premiums keep going up because congress mandates that they have to cover allot of illnesses. Thats been one of the things that allot of people say could reduce cost if people could choose their coverages rather than congress mandate what the ins.co. have to cover. Good example would be a person who does not drink or use drugs has to pay for caverage which would provide treatment for acohlo and drug addiction. Why is that mandated by congress when he would not need coverage for this or why do they force me to pay for other coverages I don't feel I need?
That Guy 10-22-2008, 07:13 AM Ins co. have to cover this now days and its one reason premiums keep going up because congress mandates that they have to cover allot of illnesses. Thats been one of the things that allot of people say could reduce cost if people could choose their coverages rather than congress mandate what the ins.co. have to cover. Good example would be a person who does not drink or use drugs has to pay for caverage which would provide treatment for acohlo and drug addiction. Why is that mandated by congress when he would not need coverage for this or why do they force me to pay for other coverages I don't feel I need?
because you don't know what you'll need... maybe you get hooked on pain pills.. now you can't get fixed since you never paid for it, or you have to get fixed on someone else's dollar.
it's like in galveston - they used to allow you to take money out of your retirement account, so some people did to buy big screen tvs or whatnot, and then b*tched at retirement about not having enough money... so guess what? since 91 or so you can't do that anymore. sometimes people have to be saved from themselves so they don't make a bad decision which ends up affecting others (ie if in this examplbe he became homeless and a tax burden through a direct result his own actions/decisions).
Slingin Sammy 33 10-28-2008, 03:35 PM The $ 250K bar is already creeping down....and Obama hasn't even "picked out the drapes" yet
McCain: Obama's Definition of Rich Is 'Creeping Down' - FOXNews.com Elections (http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28/mccain-obamas-definition-rich-creeping/comments/)
With a supermajority expect an even lower bar for raising taxes.
saden1 10-28-2008, 03:39 PM Hope you don't make more than 150K SS33 or your family just might be headed to the poor house. Hope you ball and shine forever, forever and ever.
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