Redskins Release Torrence

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53Fan
11-12-2008, 02:45 AM
You got me thinking Killa. (About time right?) If Hall does'nt make it, who replaces him and Torrence next year? Tryon? That may be the case. More than likely Fincher would have been safe on the practice squad and we could have opened up a space there by releasing Westbrook who is'nt as valuable as Torrence. I could be wrong but I don't see Westbrook having much of a future here.

GTripp0012
11-12-2008, 09:28 AM
anyone see the article in U.S.A. today about players salaries? my man Brunell makes about 6 million/per. Brees makes about 8 million/ per. cant believe they are paying the old lefty that muchThey're not. That would have been Brunell's base salary here in 2008 had he not been released.

hail_2_da_skins
11-12-2008, 10:56 AM
I honestly thought that if Hall stuck they would cut Springs next year. I kind of agree. Torrence was a real talent that would have made a great fourth corner next year. We would be able to go into next years draft with out even thinking corner. If it were up to me I would have released Fincher. Cerrato said they might only keep five LBs prior to the season and load up the practice squad. That is what I would have done. I love the Hall adition, but letting a corner like Torrence go was careless.

Release Fincher? Put down the peace pipe Tonto! Fincher is a hitting machine. One day he will start in this league. Right now, he is one of the Redskins better special teams players. Against the Steelers, it was Fincher that was heads up and recovered the onside kick at the beginning of the game. On punts and kick offs, he is making the tackle or around the ball constantly.

I think the Skins should have retained Torrence and either cut the midget (Tryon) or put Malcolm Kelley on injured reserve.

Coff
11-12-2008, 12:46 PM
LOL, you can't be serious. Cut Springs instead of Torrence?


I would not seriously expect the Skins to cut Springs instead of Torrence, but I think the suggestion deserves a closer look. The point was more to highlight my frustration with Springs as well as the direction of the front office.

Skinsfan69 expressed concern that the Skins are moving in the wrong direction, the “pre-Joe days” of Danny and Vinny, and I can kind of see that. Instead of investing in a young, on-the-rise, 26 year old corner who comes cheap (Torrence), we bring in big name corner in Hall, while at the same time a guy like Springs, a 32-year-old injury prone corner, is soaking up a substantial amount of our salary cap, while contributing very little on the field.

When added up, these conditions do not seem to point toward a well thought out, long term method for improving this football team. Rather, it appears as a rash, slightly illogical approach to team building that emphasizes big names and hasty judgments.

T.O. Killa made a great point: if the Hall deal works out, it will make a lot of sense to cut Springs next season. With Rogers and Hall at corner, it would be crazy to spend over 7 million a year on a #3 corner, especially if he’s injured for much of the season. So if we were to cut Springs, we would need another corner, preferably a cheap, young corner who is a great role player. Know of anyone who fits that description? Oh yeah, Leigh Torrence.

JoeRedskin
11-12-2008, 01:44 PM
T.O. Killa made a great point: if the Hall deal works out, it will make a lot of sense to cut Springs next season. With Rogers and Hall at corner, it would be crazy to spend over 7 million a year on a #3 corner, especially if he’s injured for much of the season. So if we were to cut Springs, we would need another corner, preferably a cheap, young corner who is a great role player. Know of anyone who fits that description? Oh yeah, Leigh Torrence.

Oh wait, here's a better idea for a third corner: Smoot.

Regardless of whether Hall or Springs stays, the debate is "who should have been our 4th corner of the future: Torrence or Tryon". Not a debate I am losing sleep over.

Also, for the record, Springs is under contract for one more year and I am betting he plays out his contract. Yes, I know it's an expensive year and, yes, I know he only gives us so many games. He is also, for those games worth every bit of his top corner pay. Many teams have paid top dollar for part time players and, IMO, Springs is one those type players. Against the tall, strong receivers he is absolutely a shut down guy. Plus, that gives us one more year to develop depth (either Tryon or some other player).

vallin21
11-12-2008, 02:16 PM
If Hall works out than Springs will get the ax. Period The corners next year would then be Hall, Rodgers, Smoot, Tryon (or someone else). Springs is way to old and a he's salary cap liability.

T.O.Killa
11-12-2008, 02:40 PM
Release Fincher? Put down the peace pipe Tonto! Fincher is a hitting machine. One day he will start in this league. Right now, he is one of the Redskins better special teams players. Against the Steelers, it was Fincher that was heads up and recovered the onside kick at the beginning of the game. On punts and kick offs, he is making the tackle or around the ball constantly.

I think the Skins should have retained Torrence and either cut the midget (Tryon) or put Malcolm Kelley on injured reserve.
Ok, so he fell on a ball that came right to him, big deal. As for being a hitting machine, I have not seen that. He was cut by New Orleans who has a crappy defense and then cut by the Lions in pre-season , before the first round of cuts. I think he would have been safe on the practice squad.

holcknowsbest
11-12-2008, 02:55 PM
If Hall works out than Springs will get the ax. Period The corners next year would then be Hall, Rodgers, Smoot, Tryon (or someone else). Springs is way to old and a he's salary cap liability.

Too old for what? salary cap liability for who?...not yet on either... One its a mistake to give springs his walking papers right now, he misses games here and there now(he used to be there every game) but he is a top flight corner in this league....he matches up (size and speed wise) with TO all day long and plexico too. plus he can still run, last time i checked springs was our best corner. he still is despite carlos's emergence. plus out of hall, smoot, rodgers, tryon...who can play safety....dont say rogers because he has had a couple hits either. keeping springs would be logical on many fronts and keep our defense great depth at 2 positions more than any of those other 4 guys.

holcknowsbest
11-12-2008, 03:02 PM
wow that was a donkey chicken scratch post, but the content is there...SPRINGS is the more logical guy to keep......even more so than smoot, hall, or rogers. i would agree though that rogers is our future at the position, but hes not better at 26 or 27 than springs is at 33. ask greg blache, when springs is healthy hes on the top reciever, bottom line. plex had a day against rogers in the opening game but i will give him a pass because he was coming off that injury but i trust springs more than anyone else on this team in pass coverage.

Ruhskins
11-12-2008, 04:17 PM
wow that was a donkey chicken scratch post, but the content is there...SPRINGS is the more logical guy to keep......even more so than smoot, hall, or rogers. i would agree though that rogers is our future at the position, but hes not better at 26 or 27 than springs is at 33. ask greg blache, when springs is healthy hes on the top reciever, bottom line. plex had a day against rogers in the opening game but i will give him a pass because he was coming off that injury but i trust springs more than anyone else on this team in pass coverage.

As much as I like Springs, this "when healthy" phrase always seems to accompany any praise that is given to him. Unfortunately, as the years pass, the likelyhood of injury will continue. Therefore I don't think is worth keeping him as a CB. Maybe as a Safety.

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