memphisskin
11-09-2008, 10:23 AM
I think the general concern is not that Torrence was a great player or that somehow he was going to turn into an All-Pro or something. Clearly he had trouble in coverage and was a liability when he was on the field. But Hall will be a liability in coverage too. Plus he likes to talk, is a self-promoter, and probably is not going to sacrifice his body on kick coverages for the good of the team as a guy like Torrence would.
The concern is that you get rid of a well liked guy who worked hard and played on special teams and potentially disrupt a solid locker room in the midst of a good season. You do so in order to bring in a player who thinks he is a great player, but whose play on the field suggests is only an average player. Hopefully he will be a team guy and play the good soldier for seven games in hopes of getting a big payday, but his coverage skills are suspect. He has continually gotten beaten in coverage throughout his career and has an exceptionally high yards per attempt average against him over five seasons. Last week he was beaten repeatedly by first-round bust Michael Jenkins. Hopefully he can return punts and provide some depth but the statistics (if you take out the Pro Bowls, and you know how name recognition plays in there) suggest he is not a huge upgrade at the position. So the concern is you disrupt a locker room in order to bring in an over-hyped average player who thinks he is a great player. I did not have a problem bringing in Hall on the cheap, and the fan in me gets excited about a big name guy coming in, but I am concerned about an impact in the locker room.
I can see the cause for concern, although I don't share it. I think our locker room is strong enough to get Hall in line if need be, which I don't think there will be. I think locker rooms divide over quarterbacks, not over the 53rd man.
Last week, Michael Jenkins caught 2 passes. And I seem to recall Oakland saying that Randy Moss had "lost it" as well, so I believe absolutely nothing that comes out of Oakland considering Al Davis's picture is in the dictionary next to "agenda." Hall will blossom in DC, he's not a bump and run shut down corner, but he has proven that he is a heckuva corner when he can play off and read the qb, as his 2 Pro Bowls prove. I think Hall's upside WAAAY outweighs any potential negative, especially when you consider the guy grew up in Virginia, probably as a Skins fan, and is coming from NFL purgatory to a team firmly in the playoff mix.
One last tidbit, he already has 48 tackles, 13 pass deflections and 3 picks. I think Hall will lead us in picks, the more I research the guy the more I like this move. I think this will be the best move this front office has made this year.
Leigh, who?
The concern is that you get rid of a well liked guy who worked hard and played on special teams and potentially disrupt a solid locker room in the midst of a good season. You do so in order to bring in a player who thinks he is a great player, but whose play on the field suggests is only an average player. Hopefully he will be a team guy and play the good soldier for seven games in hopes of getting a big payday, but his coverage skills are suspect. He has continually gotten beaten in coverage throughout his career and has an exceptionally high yards per attempt average against him over five seasons. Last week he was beaten repeatedly by first-round bust Michael Jenkins. Hopefully he can return punts and provide some depth but the statistics (if you take out the Pro Bowls, and you know how name recognition plays in there) suggest he is not a huge upgrade at the position. So the concern is you disrupt a locker room in order to bring in an over-hyped average player who thinks he is a great player. I did not have a problem bringing in Hall on the cheap, and the fan in me gets excited about a big name guy coming in, but I am concerned about an impact in the locker room.
I can see the cause for concern, although I don't share it. I think our locker room is strong enough to get Hall in line if need be, which I don't think there will be. I think locker rooms divide over quarterbacks, not over the 53rd man.
Last week, Michael Jenkins caught 2 passes. And I seem to recall Oakland saying that Randy Moss had "lost it" as well, so I believe absolutely nothing that comes out of Oakland considering Al Davis's picture is in the dictionary next to "agenda." Hall will blossom in DC, he's not a bump and run shut down corner, but he has proven that he is a heckuva corner when he can play off and read the qb, as his 2 Pro Bowls prove. I think Hall's upside WAAAY outweighs any potential negative, especially when you consider the guy grew up in Virginia, probably as a Skins fan, and is coming from NFL purgatory to a team firmly in the playoff mix.
One last tidbit, he already has 48 tackles, 13 pass deflections and 3 picks. I think Hall will lead us in picks, the more I research the guy the more I like this move. I think this will be the best move this front office has made this year.
Leigh, who?