Redskins vs. Cowboys Gameday thread


53Fan
11-17-2008, 01:05 AM
I think they played well in the after the giants game early. We did beat Dallas and Philly on the road, and the Cards and Saints at home. Plus, our run game has been good--that aspect of the oline has been fine.

But they've looked bad in the last 2 games, no doubt. And they are old.

I agree with that. But I did'nt have confidence in them even then. You never know what you're going to get. A good line does'nt play well, once in a while. It's hard to believe in this line. Are they going to show up this week? Who Knows.

GTripp0012
11-17-2008, 01:12 AM
Poor line play is involved for sure, but damn our O line used to be pretty good. All of a sudden they suck? Well, it's not all of a sudden they suck. They were good in 2005 and 2006. They were injured last year, which masked the problems...except the only difference between last year's line and this year's line is that Todd Wade isn't on the team, and Pete Kendall and Stephon Heyer have adjusted much better to our new non-Gibbs running scheme. Randy Thomas, meanwhile, has unadjusted. That's the problem, along with the fact that Rabach went from bad against the pass in 2007 to can't-block-anybody type bad in 08.

But the line isn't markedly different (or worse) than it was last year. Samuels is just hurt. That's all.

GTripp0012
11-17-2008, 01:18 AM
I think they played well in the after the giants game early. We did beat Dallas and Philly on the road, and the Cards and Saints at home. Plus, our run game has been good--that aspect of the oline has been fine.

But they've looked bad in the last 2 games, no doubt. And they are old.Don't count out the two main factors here:

1) Campbell has bailed out the OL many, many times in the past, but not so much the last two games.

2) Teams who blitz Campbell generally get burned.

The Steelers got to us a lot with 5, and generally confused Campbell. Meanwhile, the Cowboys just covered all options down the field and forced Campbell to run or eat the ball. When Campbell's really getting whacked a lot, you can see that he still is confused on some of his more advanced reads. Actually, that's a problem for most quarterbacks. Campbell still has unbelievable pocket presence for someone his age, and his decision making when he's getting killed is usually less than ideal, but normally, it doesn't result in INTs, and that's what separates him from the pack.

GusFrerotte
11-17-2008, 01:20 AM
GTripp,

What do you think about Zorn tweaking the playbook some? Those screen type out patterns are very dangerous and god those roll outs to the weak side are going to get JC killed!!!!!

GTripp0012
11-17-2008, 01:54 AM
GTripp,

What do you think about Zorn tweaking the playbook some? Those screen type out patterns are very dangerous and god those roll outs to the weak side are going to get JC killed!!!!!No reason to nitpick the playcalling. We're getting little to no help for Jason Campbell in the passing game. Even the screens are errant passes.

Getting Campbell away from the interior line is not a bad idea, but I agree that you don't want to cut the field in half too often.

johnerotten
11-17-2008, 07:18 AM
you're a raving lunatic.

that's part of the qualifications for a washington redskins fan is'nt it?they drive me nuts every week.i can't speak for others though.

thomasfan31
11-17-2008, 12:52 PM
Fairweather fan is just not appropriate for SEASONTICKETHOLDER! You are just NOT a fan! you are so damn negative!

skinsfan_nn
11-17-2008, 07:11 PM
Well that was a hard pill to eat last pm! As the old saying goes it all starts up front. It did the first drive and then, well you know the rest.

Our pass pro is awful, no slack the front five are all guilty of horrible play its not one player, they all need a good look in the mirror. And defensively our ends couldn't get to a QB if there life depended on it. Very disappointed in the rushing or lack there of. The opponents in this case homo is in the pocket having a picnic and we just can't get there? I just don't get what has happened to AC/JT I understand is coming of injury but is supposed to be healthy, Evans. CAN ANYBODY SACK A QB?

Couple of nice picks Hall, Rocky, then can't capitalize, not a single point.

Great effort and game ball to CP I could not believe when I was watching him on the field for warm ups, unreal heart....this guy is a true warrior/REDSKIN! And had a solid game.

Turd of the day= Thanks Springs for HAVING to be 100% to play a fcking ball game in the NFL! Glad everyone else that plays this game doesn't live to you godly standards OR we would never have this great sport to go watch.

The FANS did there part, the 12th man was alive and very vocal! There was by no means any repeat of the burg game! THE REDSKIN RAGS WHERE FLYING HIGH!

Well this one is in the books, so we are what we are....? It appears to me looking at the standings we need to finish winning 5 of the next 6 to have a chance of any type of playoff action. Hope we get are act together quickly starting in Seattle.

GTripp0012
11-17-2008, 09:28 PM
Couple of nice picks Hall, Rocky, then can't capitalize, not a single point.Points off turnovers is about as telling as a conventional stat gets, maybe outside of yards per pass attempt. And we've been terrible in it this season. Usually, it's on the defense, but on Monday we forced two turnovers, and still couldn't get a FG.

This is a great point you bring up and something that's totally underpublicized. The defense DID come through in the first half at least, and the offense didn't do anything with those sudden change opportunities.

757SkinsGirl
11-18-2008, 09:25 AM
For my first time going to a game, (and it was Skins/Cowboys! C'mon!) and going through a sub-par (now we know) travel agency, I have to say, the most fun I had was in the parking lot. Unbeknownst to us (as we didn't have tix in hand until after the tailgait), we had THE WORST view from section 215...

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/20/l_10708f20eeab4230aa0366d1a3038275.jpg

...we did manage to enjoy ourselves. I mean, it was the Redskins after all, but next time, we know better.

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