For the Zorn / Campbell Excuse makers...

I don't think we needed a new thread to show that the Ravens, Dolphins, and Falcons are all better than we are this year.

Also, good job showing ignorance of our new running schemes, which were the key to our early 6-2 success, IMO.

In his first year with the Falcons, Jim Mora: 11-5 and the playoffs. M. Vick's first full year as starter.

Next two years? 15-17

Vermeil's first two years with the Rams: 9-23. Third year: 13-3, Win the Super Bowl.

First year coaches? You can't always tell.

When it relates to all the Zorn/Campbell arguments on here? I think so...

Just trying to provide insight on not that they are better this year, but just think about comparing these 3 teams after last season ended...

We are the only one that carried over the heavy majority of our starters...

Just adding my perspective of the excuses I am tired of hearing...

Hey bro, compare the offensive coordinators and QB coaches they have a bigger impact on the offense then the HC.
The only thing this information shows is that you don't know what you're talking about. And like comparing apples and oranges and potatoes.

I agree!
In my opinion our Offensive line is the reason why we aren't successful

I don't think we needed a new thread to show that the Ravens, Dolphins, and Falcons are all better than we are this year.

Also, good job showing ignorance of our new running schemes, which were the key to our early 6-2 success, IMO.


Wow... have you not been paying attention this year at all?? I think on a weekly basis it is made fact that our running scheme was COMPLETELY unchanged from last year!! Ignorance?? Really??

You are right about one thing ... THAT running game, which Zorn had nothing to do with (other than deciding NOT to change it), has been the reason we have won at all this year

Hey bro, compare the offensive coordinators and QB coaches they have a bigger impact on the offense then the HC.
The only thing this information shows is that you don't know what you're talking about. And like comparing apples and oranges and potatoes.

Talk about not knowing what you are talking about... way to respond intelligently witha facts and reasoning..

Do you even know who our QB COACH IS???? it's one Jim Zorn!!!!

Our O-Coordinator?? I'll tell you... he is Zorn's best offensive buddy, Sherman Smith, who he HAND-PICKED BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME OFFENSIVE PHILOSPHY!

Who calls the plays... wait.. you have to know this one right?? um, yup, that would be Zorn...

So you are basically implying that those teams have far superior OCs? Right? Well then you are just validating my point that Zorn needs no more excuses.. he just doesn't match up!!

But hey, good post... you obviously know what YOU are talking about

Wow... have you not been paying attention this year at all?? I think on a weekly basis it is made fact that our running scheme was COMPLETELY unchanged from last year!! Ignorance?? Really??

You are right about one thing ... THAT running game, which Zorn had nothing to do with (other than deciding NOT to change it), has been the reason we have won at all this yearExcept that 70% of our runs are zone scheme, compared to 0% last year.

But what kind of a change is that?

Except that 70% of our runs are zone scheme, compared to 0% last year.

But what kind of a change is that?

It's a change not coming from Zorn-Smith. It has been established that the running scheme hasn't been touched by the newbies. How the line blocks comes directly from Bugel...

Talk about not knowing what you are talking about... way to respond intelligently witha facts and reasoning..

Do you even know who our QB COACH IS???? it's one Jim Zorn!!!!

Our O-Coordinator?? I'll tell you... he is Zorn's best offensive buddy, Sherman Smith, who he HAND-PICKED BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME OFFENSIVE PHILOSPHY!

Who calls the plays... wait.. you have to know this one right?? um, yup, that would be Zorn...

So you are basically implying that those teams have far superior OCs? Right? Well then you are just validating my point that Zorn needs no more excuses.. he just doesn't match up!!

But hey, good post... you obviously know what YOU are talking about

You made my point for me.

Zorn is doing too much. He's basically the HC/QB coach/OC. All those other coaches had time to put together a staff of their choosing a luxury Zorn wasn't afforded. Where was Zorn supposed to find a veteran WCO OC and QB coach last minute?

Zorn is wearing three hats and all things considered is doing a decent job on a Redskins team most people wrote off at the start of the season.


At the start of the season the offense was good right?

JC has improved right?

Maybe the offense would still be effective if Zorn had at least 1 other coach to help with the in-game adjustments and weekly gameplanning/play design?

How about you realize how much Zorn has accomplished and give him another year?

Best excuse for Zorn this far... too much going on (installing passing offense, QB development, play calling, etc. on TOP of HC duties...) ... but ... what does he do as HC? Blache completely runs the D, he has Sherman Smith and Meidt there with him to install offense and has a BUNCH of experienced players on offense who will tell you that that a new offense to them is not THAT huge a deal (aka Atlanta, Baltimore, & Miami outscoring us by far)

Maybe you are right, though, seriously... good post... that what I started this post for... logical, factual responses... not people going on the attack with no real logical, factual argument why