Saints Hire Gregg Williams for D-Coordinator Job

I am glad you are happy with 8-8. I am not.

Well a lot of rookies have losing seasons (i.e. Cam Cameron's 1-15), so while I'm not happy with 8-8, I'm glad we didn't do worst.

Well a lot of rookies have losing seasons (i.e. Cam Cameron's 1-15), so while I'm not happy with 8-8, I'm glad we didn't do worst.

There were two Rookie coaches (Atlanta & Miami) that made the playoffs.
I like Zorn, but the jury is still out on this coaching staff. They took a playoff team and regressed. I thought at the time that Williams and Saunders should been given at least a chance to see what they can do. We took an even bigger chance on Zorn who was not even a Offensive coordinator.

There were two Rookie coaches (Atlanta & Miami) that made the playoffs.
I like Zorn, but the jury is still out on this coaching staff. They took a playoff team and regressed. I thought at the time that Williams and Saunders should been given at least a chance to see what they can do. We took an even bigger chance on Zorn who was not even a Offensive coordinator.

I think you think a bit too much of our playoff appearances, especially since last year we backed into the playoffs with a 9-7 record.

And I guess since all the teams that have hired a coach so far passed on him, maybe we made the right choice in hiring Zorn? I think so.

Good point... possible Williams just isn't HC material.

There were two Rookie coaches (Atlanta & Miami) that made the playoffs.
I like Zorn, but the jury is still out on this coaching staff. They took a playoff team and regressed. I thought at the time that Williams and Saunders should been given at least a chance to see what they can do. We took an even bigger chance on Zorn who was not even a Offensive coordinator.I am also not happy with 8-8, but it's not like they were handed a team that would have been able to make the playoffs in an improved NFC this year. 8 wins this year is more impressive than 9 last year.

I would not be happy with another 8-8 team next year, as we should be able to improve, particularly on the offensive end. I expect at least a winning record next year, but 8-8 was fine for a team that made no significant improvements in the offseason.

I am glad you are happy with 8-8. I am not.

We could have been 4-12 like the Jags.

8-8 is a good start for a rookie HC and a team with little depth. I think Zorn did pretty good with what he had left towards the end of the season. It's almost like people want to hate him before he even gets a chance to install his system (coaches, players, playcall, ect...) I don't get it. One one hand we say he shouldn't be HC with no HC experience. And then we compare him to rookie coaches in Atlanta and Miami???

Good point... possible Williams just isn't HC material.

Williams was 17-31 in 3 seasons in Buffalo. He was fired after going 6-10 in his 3rd year. Zorn goes 8-8 his first year and people want to talk about what a good headcoach Williams would have been for us. As far as Zorn inheriting a playoff team, as Ruhskins said, we backed into the playoffs last year at 9-7. Williams is a good DC just like Norv is a good OC. That doesn't make you a good headcoach. This BS about Zorn inheriting a playoff team is really getting old and as good as Williams was as DC, he was also an unbearable ass at times. I guess it's easier to say we shoulda done this or that before giving things a chance to play out instead of just supporting who we have. Would anybody be happy with 6-10 in Zorns 3rd year? If you can't do any better than that after 3 years....see ya. I'd say give Zorn 3 years like Williams had before declaring Williams a better HC.

Williams was 17-31 in 3 seasons in Buffalo. He was fired after going 6-10 in his 3rd year. Zorn goes 8-8 his first year and people want to talk about what a good headcoach Williams would have been for us. As far as Zorn inheriting a playoff team, as Ruhskins said, we backed into the playoffs last year at 9-7. Williams is a good DC just like Norv is a good OC. That doesn't make you a good headcoach. This BS about Zorn inheriting a playoff team is really getting old and as good as Williams was as DC, he was also an unbearable ass at times. I guess it's easier to say we shoulda done this or that before giving things a chance to play out instead of just supporting who we have.

Zorn was hired to be the offensive coordinator of a team that had an average offense last year. With the same players, he managed to score less points that the 0-16 Detroit Lions. Record aside, he failed miserably on his side of the ball. Hopefully, he will do better next year.

I am not hating Zorn. I hope Zorn becomes the next great coach.
I was responding to previous posts on this thread that theorized that because other teams passed on GW, that some how that means we made the right call in hiring Zorn.
I was saying the jury is still out on this staff and it is much too soon to say we made the "right call in hiring Zorn." While also defending GW.

While the record were somewhat similar from Gibbs 2007 to Zorn's 2008 seasons, the teams finished the seasons in completely different ways.
Gibbs won his final 5 games including big wins in a 22-10 week 15 win at Giants and a 27-6 blow out of the Cowboys in the final week of the season that got us in the playoffs.
Zorn's 2008 Redskins came out strong to an ealy 6-2 record in September in October, they went a dismal 2-6 in November and Decmber, when it matters most.
While Zorn's 8-8 record is very respectable for a rookie NFL coach, the Redskins looked pitifully bad in their week 15 loss to the Bengals and week 17 loss to the 49ers. Reminded me of the old Spurrier days. That is what I mean by the team regressed.