53Fan
01-17-2009, 08:18 PM
Even Bill Bellichick got fired by the Browns.
There is always an exception to the rule. But there is just as much a chance that Williams will never be a good HC as there is that he will. I'm not saying he never will be. I just don't follow those who seem so sure he will be. His record doesn't support it. Bellichick also led Cleveland to their last playoff win in 91. So he had some success there. Every coach that gets fired is not a bad coach. But I would say their records speak louder than if they were fired or not.
53Fan
01-17-2009, 08:25 PM
Install his offense? Baltimore, new HC, new QB, new offense...ummm their in the play offs.
Miami, new HC, new QB to the system, new offense....ummm they made it to the play offs.
Atlanta, new HC, new QB, new offense....ummm they made it to the play offs.
Install his coaches? His coaches were half picked for him and I get the feeling that's not going to change. It would be nice to see him bring in some more WCO coaches to help him but I honestly am beggining to think the front office, Snyder, Cerratto, and Zorn are thinking status quo.
We might see some new players....if were lucky. Maybe we should start with Thomas, Kelly, and Davis. Gotta start somewhere.
Install playcalling? I thought Zorn did that? I agree the team needs to know it backwards and forwards so JC can change the play at the line if need be.
I don't know if he should be a HC or not...you know how they say you get like a 300 for simply putting your name on the SAT correctly.....well Zorn took a decent team whether border line play off or not ...the team itself should have been able to go 8-8 even with out a coach. As to comparing and whether its fair....totally fair. Zorn was thrown into a HC position from QB coach. All the rest were Coordinators on teams prior to taking HC positions. This shows exactly what everyone is saying when they say he may have taken on too much all by himself and not having a proven NFL OC to back him up or assist along with only having half a staff that knows the WCO.
If Snyder, Cerratto and Zorn can finally figure all that out then maybe, just maybe next year we will be a better team.
Really? It only went 9-7 last year with a HOF headcoach. I guess Gibbs was good for one win? :doh:
44ever
01-17-2009, 08:58 PM
Install his offense? Baltimore, new HC, new QB, new offense...ummm their in the play offs.
Miami, new HC, new QB to the system, new offense....ummm they made it to the play offs.
Atlanta, new HC, new QB, new offense....ummm they made it to the play offs.
Install his coaches? His coaches were half picked for him and I get the feeling that's not going to change. It would be nice to see him bring in some more WCO coaches to help him but I honestly am beggining to think the front office, Snyder, Cerratto, and Zorn are thinking status quo.
We might see some new players....if were lucky. Maybe we should start with Thomas, Kelly, and Davis. Gotta start somewhere.
Install playcalling? I thought Zorn did that? I agree the team needs to know it backwards and forwards so JC can change the play at the line if need be.
I don't know if he should be a HC or not...you know how they say you get like a 300 for simply putting your name on the SAT correctly.....well Zorn took a decent team whether border line play off or not ...the team itself should have been able to go 8-8 even with out a coach. As to comparing and whether its fair....totally fair. Zorn was thrown into a HC position from QB coach. All the rest were Coordinators on teams prior to taking HC positions. This shows exactly what everyone is saying when they say he may have taken on too much all by himself and not having a proven NFL OC to back him up or assist along with only having half a staff that knows the WCO.
If Snyder, Cerratto and Zorn can finally figure all that out then maybe, just maybe next year we will be a better team.
Look brother your frustrated. And so am I. I guess I'm just looking at things a little differently. Mabye with a little more optimism. What's that going to do come end of next season. If things don't work out it's probably going to change. And if they do change, change to what? But in the end there will be disapointments. Whats going to happen when we finally have a great defense and Portis breaks down. We're Skins fans. What else is new! But I'm optimistic for what it's worth.
SBXVII
01-17-2009, 09:08 PM
Don't get me wrong 44, I'm optomistic....I hope for the best but plan for the worst.
The Goat
01-18-2009, 02:12 PM
And I guess since all the teams that have hired a coach so far passed on him, maybe we made the right choice in hiring Zorn? I think so.
When I first read you're post nothing struck me but then I started to wonder what HC jobs Williams applied for since he left Washington? Anybody know?
SmootSmack
03-26-2009, 11:22 AM
How long until Pierson Prioleau signs with the Saints
Took about two months for Prioleau to reunite with Williams
(trying to find a link)
Ruhskins
03-26-2009, 01:21 PM
Took about two months for Prioleau to reunite with Williams
(trying to find a link)
Here you go....
Scout.com: Saints Sign Veteran DB (http://nor.scout.com/2/850769.html)
Monkeydad
03-26-2009, 02:30 PM
How long until Pierson Prioleau signs with the Saints
Ha...