The Goat
01-30-2009, 04:09 PM
The mocks that have us taking a DE are a little puzzling... actually really puzzling. Basically we're bringing back two starters from last year (i would count Evans as a starter now even though i'd like to upgrade him) while the oline has these glaring holes.
freddyg12
01-30-2009, 06:01 PM
The mocks that have us taking a DE are a little puzzling... actually really puzzling. Basically we're bringing back two starters from last year (i would count Evans as a starter now even though i'd like to upgrade him) while the oline has these glaring holes.
DE & DT are pretty significant needs. We need a pass rush any way we can get it. I don't think it's puzzling at all. If they really like a DE that's there at 13 it makes sense to grab him.
I do agree that the o line is more in need, especially RT. I think the smart pick is an OT w/13 but if they feel the class is deep enough to get somebody decent in rnd. 3 maybe they take Brown or Orakpo if they can.
If Oher is the last of the top OTs left at 13 I hope we can trade down or take somebody they've rated higher on the d line.
Son Of Man
01-30-2009, 06:20 PM
I agree with passing on Oher. I've watched the senior bowl on DVR twice and he doesn't appear to be that good. Also, the knock on him is effort, especially in run blocking! Pass on him please!!! (pass on Peria Jerry and BJ Raji too). One week of senior bowl practice does not do enough for a college career of hacking it.
If no trade take Maualuga at 13.
If we can trade down take Eben Britton or Fili Moala in the late first round and Ayers the DE in the third.
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KLHJ2
01-30-2009, 06:36 PM
The mocks that have us taking a DE are a little puzzling... actually really puzzling. Basically we're bringing back two starters from last year (i would count Evans as a starter now even though i'd like to upgrade him) while the oline has these glaring holes.
I always wanted to tell you that you sig is effed up...yet funny in a sick sort of way. I feel bad for the boy and the reporter.
53Fan
01-30-2009, 06:52 PM
PennSkinsFan. Do you know which mock was the closest to getting it right last year?
Eknox
01-31-2009, 03:02 AM
take Maualuga at 13 or BJ Raji
vallin21
01-31-2009, 08:25 AM
take Maualuga at 13 or BJ Raji
Malaauga is not a need, (we have Flecther) you either take an OT at 13, draft the OLB from Wake. Bj Raja is not a top 13 pick, you can get him in the mid 20's in the 1st and get a 3rd.
horny4zorny-nohomo
01-31-2009, 10:19 AM
you have to remember that joe bugel is still the I line coach!
Daseal
01-31-2009, 11:38 AM
Trading down means you need a partner, which is easier said than done. However, we're in a good spot for trading down. We're out of the ridiculous money tier, but still allows teams to get great prospects.
The Goat
01-31-2009, 01:01 PM
you have to remember that joe bugel is still the I line coach!
I don't know how much that matters anymore. As to our biggest position of need (OT) it looks like Andre Smith and Monroe will be long gone by 13. The consensus brewing around here it seems is we should pass on Oher, who looks more likely to fall to us now. So the only other 1st round rated tackle is Jason Smith but he's expected to go later in the round. Trading w/ the lions may actually be perfect to get J. Smith and pickup a third rd pick (if Vinny is dead set on the line). I'll be a little uneasy about this for two reasons: when it comes to 3rd and later round talent Vinny seems to be totally hit and miss, as in C. Rinehart. Impossible to say whether another 3rd round selection will do us any good whatsoever. This is why I'm almost more inclined to stay @ 13 no matter what and get the best talent, as in it's harder for Vinny to f up. I would say if the o tackles are gone but Curry or Rey M. fall to us we ought to take one of them and run. Obviously Curry is the perfect OLB but why couldn't Rey step in there for some time before taking over for London in 2 years or so? Is that completely unheard of?
Personally I think it's interesting tackle is considered a relatively safe 1st round pick now.