firstdown
03-09-2009, 01:41 PM
To me rankings mean nothing unless you're a coordinator in a contract year. I'd be thrilled if we were ranked 15th in total defense if we led the league in scoring defense, sacks and turnovers. The things that matter are changing field position and preventing points from being put up on you.
Well without sacks and scoring our D still was ranked 4th because we did prevent teams from scoring and thats the main thing that any D must do.
freddyg12
03-09-2009, 01:46 PM
If anything, the disdain KI feels about Daniels & Wynn makes sense when you consider that they didn't try to re-sign Evans. Purely from a football standpoint it doesn't make sense that either of those guys would win the job over Evans, so I'm assuming that the cap #s didn't work to have Evans back & they feel either of these guys will play cheap (can I get a Vet Min.!).
They're also possibly gambling that Jackson/Buzbee/Wilson &/or a pick in the draft will be able to earn minutes & make the team in the future as well.
I like both Daniels and Wynn, but you must admit, cutting Wynn 2 yrs. ago & then bringing him back now at his age looks kinda funny. Maybe it was that sack he got on us after beating his buddy Jansen that made the staff think he's still got it?
isn't that three things? :)
.......stop it.........
Defensewins
03-09-2009, 01:49 PM
If they sign Daniels and Wynn, they still have to go to camp and make the team. You are assuming a lot if you think they will both make the final cuts. A lot could happen; a young DE like Rob Jackson, Chris Wilson or Alex Buzbee or a rookie might step up and make Wynn and Daniels dispensable.
Wynn and Daniels will most likely be signed to non-guaranteed contracts, thus making them very easy to cut if the do not produce.
Eknox
03-09-2009, 01:56 PM
we need to put in the young guy's and give them a chance, how long do you develop players? I say it's time for them to perform or get gone...if we can't play them and sign the over the hill game, and we just have them there for the hell of it I'll take that job I'm 6'3 246..lol
KI Skins Fan
03-09-2009, 02:38 PM
Like it or not you can't have young studs at every position on the team.
You are definitely right about that:
Rabach 32
Samuels 32
R. Thomas 33
Jansen 33
Griffin 33
Fletcher 34
Thrash 34
Daniels 36
Wynn 40?
SmootSmack
03-09-2009, 02:48 PM
Where is this Wynn is 40 thing coming from? He's 35.
I think both are very underrated and underappreciated, but I don't think we need them both.
You are definitely right about that:
Rabach 32
Samuels 32
R. Thomas 33
Jansen 33
Griffin 33
Fletcher 34
Thrash 34
Daniels 36
Wynn 40?
I think you need to check your math on Wynn, his DOB = 9/3/74
Schneed10
03-09-2009, 03:02 PM
Where is this Wynn is 40 thing coming from? He's 35.
I think both are very underrated and underappreciated, but I don't think we need them both.
You might be right, but with no impact free agents out there to be had and salary cap space not very tight, we might as well grab them both and let them fight it out in training camp with whatever young guys we can get our hands on.
And I agree they are underappreciated, especially Daniels. I still think his strength at the point of attack goes a long way to allowing the LBs to make plays on the edge. Justin Tuck he's not, but at this point he's better than anybody currently on the roster.
Perhaps the pursuit of both is due to Daniel's health... Maybe once they get to camp and he shows he can hold up they would let Wynn go?