What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?

Fair enough. I think Norv can be a good head coach with all the pieces are around him. Is he a leader of men/motivator/disiplinarian/ass kicker? No.

Sorry, Marty built the team Norv is using, and last year the barely made the playoffs, DESPITE playing in an extremely weak division. Norv, is a good OC, but a terrible HC. Same with Wade Phillips, except he is a very good DC. From the comments this has been discussed many times.

Marty couldn't win a playoff game with most of those players and the offense wasn't as good. And either you make the playoffs or you don't. It doesn't matter how you got in. The fact is they got in and won a game w/out one of their best players and the year before they got to the AFC Champoinship. Those are facts. I personally think Marty is a better head coach than Norv but that doesn't mean Norv can't coach.

I think its simple. The Redskins have to make the playoffs. The Skins were 8-8 last year and if they won some of the games they should have they would of made it last season. So going into 2009 season I think Snyder wants to see some improvement. The next goal usually for a 8-8 team is trying to make the playoffs. This team does have enough talent to do it if certain players step up and if Zorn gets better as a playcaller. If the Redskins do not make the playoffs I expect a new coach to come in for 2010.

Duhhh, I just realized the answer :doh:

NOT GET FIRED.

Fair enough. I think Norv can be a good head coach with all the pieces are around him.

Guess that means Barry Switzer was a good coach using that criteria.

A lot of guys can be good coaches when all the pieces are in place. That's really not saying much for the coach's abilities.

With all that talent the Chargers are just 19-13 the last 2 years under Norv.

The team must look better offensively.

Guess that means Barry Switzer was a good coach using that criteria.

A lot of guys can be good coaches when all the pieces are in place. That's really not saying much for the coach's abilities.

With all that talent the Chargers are just 19-13 the last 2 years under Norv.

Norv has not been very good in San Diego imo but he is a better coach then most Redskin fans give credit for.

Looking back id love to see what Norv would of done if he wasnt canned in 2000 with a 7-6 record here in Washington. I think if things went different in 2000 and Snyder didnt stick his nose into the QB position we could have had a different outlook for the future. The Skins were 11-7 and 7-6 in Turners last 2 seasons in DC. I honestly think the Skins would of had a shot for a Championship over the next couple years if things panned out different.

I think Norv would be looked on as a better coach if it wasnt for one injury that cost the Redskins. That was when Brad Johnson hurt his knee on MNF vs the Tennessee Titans in 2000. He missed 3 games and when he came back he was rusty. After the Giants game where he was benched for George all hell broke lose. Snyder canned Turner because he wanted to start Brad Johnson the next game and I really believe if Turner wouldnt of been canned we might of won a Super Bowl instead of the Tampa Bay Bucs in 2002-03.

Those Redskin teams in 1999 and 2000 werent great but Norv got the most out of those teams and did one hell of a coaching job imo.

As for the Norv question, he's proven repeatedly since leaving DC what type of coach he is. Great coordinator, poor head coach. If anything, it should show you what his reputation is when Jerry Jones didn't hire him, even after courting him publicly, before he hired Phillips, not that the Phillips hire has turned out much better.

Back on topic, I think it all depends on how they finish. Another 6-2 start, 2-6 finish (or worse) and he's gone. Going 9-7 and missing the playoffs will keep him around. Anything above that and obviously he's going to stick around.

I'd expect, if a change is made, that Shanahan would be the frontrunner, followed by Gruden then Cowher. Snyder wants a high powered, high scoring, fun to watch offense. That's his motivation behind the Zorn hire, the Cutler & Sanchez chase and the fact we've drafted so many QB in his tenure as the owner.

I think Zorn will get two more years. I don't really think he'll get fired next year unless he's 5-11 or worse. I think Jason Campbell can be the scapegoat if the offense doesn't improve. I don't believe that's the case, I think Campbell is real good and just hasn't had the pieces around him and the time to learn an offense in order to show what he can do. I hope we don't have to worry about any of this and I don't think we will because I think we will have a good season next year.

We are used to the high scoring offenses in D.C and if Zorn doesnt show that he can score points he wont last. I'd like to see us bring in a OC from S.D or N.O to run the offense. Especially one from S.D who is a 'Air Coryell' descendant ala Gibbs. maybe Dan Henning from Miami. I say N.O because they do more with less and lead the league in offense despite not having many big name WR's or a great Oline.