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firstdown 07-01-2009, 03:24 PM I agree that McNabb plays for the critical Philly fan base. But there is more to it than that. National media and national fans must be considered, and in general these folks have not been as kind to McNabb as they could be. One must ask why. One also must ask exactly why the Philly folks have been so critical specifically of McNabb.
Some (certainly not all) fans and media members, both nationally and in Philly, bring racist attitudes towards the quarterback position. As we've seen in these pages, some of those racists lurk right here at the Warpath. Apparently, to some people, it is ok to have blacks do the grunt work but not ok to have them in positions of leadership.
The famous civil rights problems in Mississippi in the 1960's were not simply a result of the fact that Mississippi whites were grumpy. Similarly, criticism of McNabb does not arise simply because Philly folks are prone to boo Santa Claus. In both cases there is more to the story.
Well if its not because he is in Philly (they did not just boo santa they threw stuff at him) then please explain why the media was in such love with MV. As far as QB talent you cannot even compare the two. I would also like to see some national coverage out side of Philly unfairly critical of McNabb.
firstdown 07-01-2009, 03:36 PM Even with the constant changes in the offensive system, and an aging o-line, and inconsistent play from the receiving corp, JC is doing exactly what he did in college and that is improve every year. Look at his completion percentage, touchdown to interception ratio, and the streak of passes without an interception. Sure he has more work to do, in particular, with that intangible where you have the confidence to effect the game when it matters most, but like anything else in life it has to be one step at a time. Tom Brady's career is exceptional. I remember some very tough years for a young Brett Favre and for both Mannings, and none of them had the adversities that JC has had. This guy has conducted himself on and off the field in a way that demands the benefit of the doubt. I can't wait to see if he can find "it".
All those stats are worthless if you not scoring. I would rather him miss a few pass, throw a few ints. if that would mean he starts throwing more TDs.
Lotus 07-01-2009, 05:14 PM Well if its not because he is in Philly (they did not just boo santa they threw stuff at him) then please explain why the media was in such love with MV. As far as QB talent you cannot even compare the two. I would also like to see some national coverage out side of Philly unfairly critical of McNabb.
Well if its not because he is in Philly
It is not an either/or. I agreed with the idea of a hostile Philly atmosphere. But I also said that there was MORE to it than just that.
please explain why the media was in such love with MV.
I don't know about this "love." I saw the media dog Vick in his heyday many times (pun intended).
I would also like to see some national coverage out side of Philly unfairly critical of McNabb.
Pay more attention. There's plenty of it out there.
Many black quarterbacks, not just JC and McNabb, have complained of racial double standards towards qb's. Either:
a) they're lying, or
b) they're whining about nothing, or
c) there is something to be learned from their critiques because they are there, on the point, and we are not
Given the racism which lives on in our culture, choice C seems to me to be the most intelligent perspective, especially since JC publicly has never been given much to either lying or whining.
firstdown 07-01-2009, 05:42 PM I don't recall McNabb playing the race card.
GTripp0012 07-01-2009, 05:49 PM I don't recall McNabb playing the race card.
"Black on black crime." -- regarding the actions of WR Terrell Owens
GTripp0012 07-01-2009, 05:50 PM All those stats are worthless if you not scoring. I would rather him miss a few pass, throw a few ints. if that would mean he starts throwing more TDs.You're right. If he threw three more touchdowns last year, despite doubling his INT total to get there, we would have been a much better team.
/sarcasm.
Dirtbag59 07-01-2009, 05:53 PM -- regarding the actions of WR Terrell Owens
Wouldn't have been the first time McNabb was a victim of black on black crime. I remember when that idiot from the NAACP criticized McNabb for not "playing like a black QB."
GTripp0012 07-01-2009, 05:58 PM Wouldn't have been the first time McNabb was a victim of black on black crime. I remember when that idiot from the NAACP criticized McNabb for not "playing like a black QB."Yeah, McNabb more than any other player, probably avoids criticism for the things he's actually not good at (health, passing accuracy), while taking incredibly amounts of public criticism for downright stupid arguments (i.e. tie game rulings, playing style, choking after directing a team deep into the playoffs). I would actually hate to be in Donovan's shoes, despite my in general desire to trade places with an NFL quarterback.
53Fan 07-01-2009, 06:00 PM I don't recall McNabb playing the race card.
McNabb Says Black QBs Under More Pressure - ABC News (http://www.abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=3624165&page=1)
Lotus 07-01-2009, 06:04 PM McNabb Says Black QBs Under More Pressure - ABC News (http://www.abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=3624165&page=1)
Thank you 53Fan. Beat me to it. Also see the McNabb-Limbaugh controversy from 2003.
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