Eli Manning vs Jason Campbell

when the SKins have a defense thats not in the top 15 you can throw the team under the bus, until then its all on the QB and the offense to get us there. and with guys like Moss,Cooley and CP there is really no excuse for us to miss the playoffs.


You forget our Achilles heel my good man, and that is our offensive line, which is aging and battered. Not to forget our woefully young and unproven WR corp.

You forget our Achilles heel my good man, and that is our offensive line, which is aging and battered.

Dude, don't even bother with this guy. To him, JC is the sole reason our team didn't do well last year.

I bitch about JC too, but he is not half of our problems. No O line and not much depth are always our undoing for the past 4 seasons. Not to mention the crappy turnover ratio.

I don't care what the stats show. JC over Eli any day. JC has more ability then Eli. Both are not that great at reading defenses. Put JC on a team with an O-line where he can have all day to decide who to throw like Eli has and he would out shine.

First 8 games of the season = JC sacked 16 times
last 8 games = he was sacked 22 times. 7 of those came in ONE game vs the Steelers. so thats 15 in the other 7 games. Close to the same avg as the beginning of the season.

Not sayin the line was perfect but to act like we are how Houston used to be with our QB getting killed each week is a stretch.

First 8 games of the season = JC sacked 16 times
last 8 games = he was sacked 22 times. 7 of those came in ONE game vs the Steelers. so thats 15 in the other 7 games. Close to the same avg as the beginning of the season.

Not sayin the line was perfect but to act like we are how Houston used to be with our QB getting killed each week is a stretch.

Just because 7 sacks happened in one game, doesn't necessarily mean they don't exist. Once again, I'm not saying Campbell is not to blame at all, but he's not the only reason they lost in the second half of the season. A lot of fans wanted for the team to pick up a lineman at #13 (me included), because a healthy/young line is the key to both the running and passing game.

As I said before, all we can do is wait and see what happens this upcoming season. I think the offense in general needs to contribute and help the team win. It shouldn't be up to the defense to carry games. Or let's hope that our defense is elite enough to carry the team (like Baltimore's). We can argue to death about JC here, but that's all we can do, nothing will be proven or unproven until the team takes the field.

BigBen sacked 46 times
JC sacked 38 times

Who won the superbowl again?

Eli was sacked more than JC last yr btw.

oops..nm counted wrong

BigBen sacked 46 times
JC sacked 38 times

Who won the superbowl again?

Peyton Manning was only sacked about 14 times. Based on that, should'nt the Colts have won the Super Bowl?