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PennSkinsFan 09-14-2009, 12:08 PM I though, overall, give the superiority of the Giants Oline, they actually got some decent pressure. What I thoughts was horrendous was the pass defense. I don't understand how the Giants secondary is battered, yet they cover our receivers, our receivers can't get open, yet our secondary is healthy and there is ALWAYS wide open receivers somewhere. Not just this game either. It seems on third downs, when opposing teams complete a pass, they receiver is standing alone.
redsk1 09-14-2009, 12:12 PM I though, overall, give the superiority of the Giants Oline, they actually got some decent pressure. What I thoughts was horrendous was the pass defense. I don't understand how the Giants secondary is battered, yet they cover our receivers, our receivers can't get open, yet our secondary is healthy and there is ALWAYS wide open receivers somewhere. Not just this game either. It seems on third downs, when opposing teams complete a pass, they receiver is standing alone.
Yes, no doubt. They have unproven WRs and they can get open on our #1 team CB's. Yet our #1 receivers can't make any plays against there backups.
One reason: Eli Manning was elusive and made some plays. He ran away from our blitz, bought some time, stepped up and hit open recievers. I never thought EM was very good til last year. He's a pretty good qb.
Ruhskins 09-14-2009, 12:30 PM Yes, no doubt. They have unproven WRs and they can get open on our #1 team CB's. Yet our #1 receivers can't make any plays against there backups.
One reason: Eli Manning was elusive and made some plays. He ran away from our blitz, bought some time, stepped up and hit open recievers. I never thought EM was very good til last year. He's a pretty good qb.
I had my doubts about Eli, and well they have been completely erased (Giantone will love this). He won with a bunch of inexperienced receivers.
warriorzpath 09-14-2009, 12:49 PM Yes, no doubt. They have unproven WRs and they can get open on our #1 team CB's. Yet our #1 receivers can't make any plays against there backups.
One reason: Eli Manning was elusive and made some plays. He ran away from our blitz, bought some time, stepped up and hit open recievers. I never thought EM was very good til last year. He's a pretty good qb.
Yeah, I agree that Eli made some plays, which I think made the difference in the game. He was very accurate especially with receivers that were covered well. The defense made a bunch of mistakes, but also made at least a couple of plays. The defensive plays that come to mind are: the defensive stop on 4th and 1 near the goalline and the interception.
hail_2_da_skins 09-14-2009, 12:51 PM I think one of the major reasons why the redskins are not doing well against the off-tackle runs - Orakpo seems to be hesitant at the linebacker spot.
The Redskins don't do well versus the off tackle run is because of Blanche's defense scheme. If you noticed, typically the Redskins linebackers and cornerbacks line up 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage. The defensive linemen have gap control, they don't flow to the ball on run plays, they cover their gap responsibilities. It's up to the linebackers and safeties to fill the creases. They are too far back, running into interference or just flat getting blocked and not getting their in time. Orakpo is out of position a lot. Carter is applying pressure from one end but Daniels is just not getting up the field. Why do you draft a pass rushing specialist and put him in a position to not help the team. This coaching staff is suspect.
artmonkforhallofamein07 09-14-2009, 01:01 PM The defnese looked good at times yesterday. AH was a big plus for us against the Giants run and he did make plays. That fourth and short at the goaline for sure was due to the big guy up front. We got a fumble BC of a sack and also a pick from a nice play by Laron Landry. These guys held up there part of the bargain. They only gave up 16 points. So to me the defense doesn't equal dissapointment.
Now Zorn and his playcalling and Jason's continued struggles against the Giants. yes that equals a dissapointment.
GTripp0012 09-14-2009, 01:09 PM Really, the only difference between Eli and Jason Campbell at this point in their careers is that Eli is better in the pocket. He moves better, and does better with the pocket collapsing around him.
Otherwise, they are very similar players.
artmonkforhallofamein07 09-14-2009, 01:17 PM Gtripp I completely agree. That is one thing that can make you a good QB and not just another guy.
firstdown 09-14-2009, 01:19 PM I though, overall, give the superiority of the Giants Oline, they actually got some decent pressure. What I thoughts was horrendous was the pass defense. I don't understand how the Giants secondary is battered, yet they cover our receivers, our receivers can't get open, yet our secondary is healthy and there is ALWAYS wide open receivers somewhere. Not just this game either. It seems on third downs, when opposing teams complete a pass, they receiver is standing alone.
Well TV does not do a very good job of showing the field to see if our WRs are open or not and JC is just missing them. I know when I saw him live (it was 2 yrs ago against the G men) we had on 9 to 12 passing plays guys wide open that JC just missed. Not sure if thats still happening but it was so bad in that game my wife even commented on it.
sandtrapjack 09-14-2009, 01:26 PM The defnese looked good at times yesterday. AH was a big plus for us against the Giants run and he did make plays. That fourth and short at the goaline for sure was due to the big guy up front. We got a fumble BC of a sack and also a pick from a nice play by Laron Landry. These guys held up there part of the bargain. They only gave up 16 points. So to me the defense doesn't equal dissapointment.
Now Zorn and his playcalling and Jason's continued struggles against the Giants. yes that equals a dissapointment.
Albert Haynesworth: 4 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.
The "100 million dollar man" needs to step it up or carve out some of that payday for London Fletcher who played lights out yesterday.
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