Gray, Smith likely interim coach choices

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JoeRedskin
10-13-2009, 02:28 PM
I am talking about the treatment L. Coles and B. Johnson got when they fell into disfavor, they were not just shown the door - DS had to give them a little sumthin, sumthin (refusing to shake Johnson's hand after a victory, the "Big-Screen" TV comment to Coles - there may be others that we just haven't heard about, the Ice Cream incident with Nolan). Maybe I am reading it wrong, but it seems that Snyder can be very petty.

SmootSmack
10-13-2009, 02:36 PM
I am talking about the treatment L. Coles and B. Johnson got when they fell into disfavor, they were not just shown the door - DS had to give them a little sumthin, sumthin (refusing to shake Johnson's hand after a victory, the "Big-Screen" TV comment to Coles - there may be others that we just haven't heard about, the Ice Cream incident with Nolan). Maybe I am reading it wrong, but it seems that Snyder can be very petty.

I don't specifically know. I know of other owners doing things for certain players that they wouldn't do for others, but I don't really know of any examples of treatment in the opposite direction.

I don't think Snyder is as petty overall as he used to be, but that's just based on limited knowledge of what's really happening these days inside Redskins Park. When I was more on the inside I do know that he was surrounded by petty people in his ownership group and front office (the business side, not the football side so much). All those people are now gone

Monkeydad
10-13-2009, 03:03 PM
It's not Snyder's football acumen that I detest - I am with Smoot (I think) in that I believe our talent aquisition has not been that bad with the glaring example of the OLine.

It's Snyder's favoritism and pettiness that I think muddle the pie. If I'm the new coach, I would say - "Mr. Snyder, if I find my guys hanging out with you, calling you, or in any way interacting with you in a way I have not approved, I will cut them. Then you can pal around with them all you like. I don't care if its the QB you personally recruited during the FA signing period. Consider it a 'non-fraternization policy'. You want to speak to the team on occasion - hey fine as long as it is to the ENTIRE team and not just one or two guys."

Obviously, Snyder would never go for that.

The new coach would be fired. :D

BDBohnzie
10-13-2009, 03:18 PM
So when you say a "football man" what exactly do you mean?
A football man along the lines of a Bobby Beathard, Bruce Allen, Ron Wolf, Scott Pioli. A guy who gets it. I don't completely bash Vinny Cerrato as I don't think 100% of the blame lies with him, but I think it's quite obvious that there has to be someone between the team and Snyder and Cerrato that can provide another view.

SmootSmack
10-13-2009, 03:22 PM
A football man along the lines of a Bobby Beathard, Bruce Allen, Ron Wolf, Scott Pioli. A guy who gets it. I don't completely bash Vinny Cerrato as I don't think 100% of the blame lies with him, but I think it's quite obvious that there has to be someone between the team and Snyder and Cerrato that can provide another view.

Agreed. I don't necessarily think the guys above "get it" any more than VC does. But I do agree that there has to be someone else with authority in this triumvirate. You'd think it'd be the head coach, but maybe Zorn is like Spurrier in that he just doesn't get involved in all that personnel stuff

BDBohnzie
10-13-2009, 03:36 PM
From what I've read, it comes across that Zorn is a guy who doesn't want to get his hands dirty with personnel decisions. He's seems ready to march Campbell in front of another patchwork offensive line, instead of talking with Cerrato and Snyder about getting some OLine help before the trade deadline. But I also think Zorn is completely in over his head now, and he's just trying to keep his head afloat...

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