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GTripp0012 10-19-2009, 05:30 PM My problems with Clausen are the same problems I had with Stafford. It's not that they're not NFL caliber players, it's that they're not great college decision makers and that their NFL upside is somewhere around what Jason Campbell already is, and if THIS organization goes down that road, it's going to end up exactly the same way.
Now, this appears to be a very deep class of college signal callers, and if you're willing to sit on a guy in the middle of the second round and pour your resources into the developmental end of the college QB equation, you can draft a guy who can take his lumps behind a young, improving OL. And if that guy is Clausen, good, I'm an ND fan, and he's an easy guy to root for. I think the main thing is to avoid the allure of a QB with a top ten pick, which we may or may not have.
You'd be better off with another safety.
WaldSkins 10-19-2009, 05:57 PM I don't really know, quite honestly.
I'm going to go to the Bucknell game so I guess i'll get to see myself how good he really is.
SmootSmack 10-19-2009, 06:02 PM I'm going to go to the Bucknell game so I guess i'll get to see myself how good he really is.
Sweet. Looking forward to hearing your feedback
PortimusPrime 10-19-2009, 06:23 PM Honestly, I'm not to keen on drafting another QB. What this team needs is a veteran player who can come in and lead this offense and do it well.
Having said that, gun to my head I'd have to go with Colt. As we've seen this year with Bradford, he seems very fragile. I'd hate to draft Bradford in the first round, pay a ton of money, then have him injured every season.
Colt, in my opinion, has the skills and talent needed at the NFL level and isn't just a glorified TE/RB behind a good O-Line. If we do decide to go the route of the rookie QB, I think he needs to sit on the bench for a year until we get this O-Line problem under control. Personally, I'd like to wait it out a year, draft some O-Line players and worry about the QB problem in next year's draft.
WaldSkins 10-19-2009, 06:49 PM Honestly, I'm not to keen on drafting another QB. What this team needs is a veteran player who can come in and lead this offense and do it well.
Having said that, gun to my head I'd have to go with Colt. As we've seen this year with Bradford, he seems very fragile. I'd hate to draft Bradford in the first round, pay a ton of money, then have him injured every season.
Colt, in my opinion, has the skills and talent needed at the NFL level and isn't just a glorified TE/RB behind a good O-Line. If we do decide to go the route of the rookie QB, I think he needs to sit on the bench for a year until we get this O-Line problem under control. Personally, I'd like to wait it out a year, draft some O-Line players and worry about the QB problem in next year's draft.
1.) Which veteran do think is going to be available for us to bring in?
2.) I love the name, welcome to the warpath
PortimusPrime 10-19-2009, 07:35 PM 1.) Which veteran do think is going to be available for us to bring in?
2.) I love the name, welcome to the warpath
Thanks, I had an avatar to go with it but can't use custom ones to my knowledge.
Honestly, at this point I wouldn't be apposed to bringing Garcia in for the remainder of the year. Anything is better at this point.
You bring up a good point, the FA QB listings will probably be slim but I think we should look at other options before going to the rookie.
Dirtbag59 10-27-2009, 01:20 PM Whats the deal with Bradford's injury? The way I've seen it described it's like his career is over. I mean it's great if we can draft him at around 8 but the way I see it is he just came back from a simple injury to fast and now he needs surgery to fix it. Still the guys are comparing him to Willis McGahee when he came out, talking about insurance policies and falling draft stock.
The funny thing is with situations like this is I've learned to split the difference when it comes to projecting these players draft projections. For example Andre Smith was considered a top 3 pick at one point. Then his workouts came and he was projected to be a late mid first round. Turns out he ends up as the 6th pick overall. So in short even if Bradford is projected to go late in the first right now I still believe that someone will draft him early. I'm obviously hoping that team is us at this point because like the guys on MNF said. Part of the reason we have trouble competing in the NFC East is a lack of stability at the QB position.
In the end we really need to find a way to fix both that, our O-Line, and in turn our running game.
My problems with Clausen are the same problems I had with Stafford. It's not that they're not NFL caliber players, it's that they're not great college decision makers and that their NFL upside is somewhere around what Jason Campbell already is, and if THIS organization goes down that road, it's going to end up exactly the same way.
Now, this appears to be a very deep class of college signal callers, and if you're willing to sit on a guy in the middle of the second round and pour your resources into the developmental end of the college QB equation, you can draft a guy who can take his lumps behind a young, improving OL. And if that guy is Clausen, good, I'm an ND fan, and he's an easy guy to root for. I think the main thing is to avoid the allure of a QB with a top ten pick, which we may or may not have.
You'd be better off with another safety.
I don't know why but I just don't like Clausen right now. He doesn't seem to have the down to earth personality that you see in the Big 3 right now (McCoy, Tebow, Bradford).
Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009, 01:35 PM I'll say it again, eff a QB! That's all you're doing anyway by bringing one in here. Look at Ramsey. Look at Brunell. Soup is looking more and more like Brunell everyday. He limps around like Brunell. He has to throw balls away like Brunell. He can't run like Brunell. Do you guys detect a trend here? If you want to eff a perfectly good QB, draft one and put him behind this line.
"All we need is one QB and a good WR. That will take us to the promised land". Y'all sound like Al Snyderato.
Big C 10-27-2009, 01:37 PM colt mccoy will not be a good nfl qb. just dont think he translates well to a pro system. bradford is a better fit for one, but still not convinced about him in the pros either. as far as im concerned jimmy clausen is the best fit for a pro style offense though he wont come out. he and max hall. maybe lefevour
Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009, 01:46 PM Sweet. Looking forward to hearing your feedback
Hey SS can you change the name of this thread to, "Which New Punching Bag Do You Think Will Fit Behind the Skins' Maginot Line?"
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