How many starting RBs are worse than Portis?

I can't believe people are still arguing about this shit.
Here's a little quiz for you.
1.)Which one of these players has the worst starting quarterback on there team
A.)Portis(Jason Campbell)
B.)Turner(Matt Ryan)
C.)Forte(Jay Culer)

2.)Which of the above players has the worst Oline?
3.) Which if the three RB's above is averaging the most yards per carry?

The answer is A to all three questions. So even with the terrible Oline and the poor perfroming QB, Cinton Portis still is averaging more YPC then the other 2 players.

I think people bitch just to bitch about something. Yea he's not the best in the league but he not as bad as everyone is making him out to be.

Anyone who thinks Portis is a leading contributor to the bad start to the season is, I feel, sadly mistaken.

When you compare what he did in the first 6 weeks of 2008 to this season, the only glaring difference is the total number of touches.

In 2008 in the first 6 weeks Portis averaged 4.7 ypc.
In 2009 in the first 6 weeks Protis averaged 4.2 ypc.

Not a big difference there, if a RB is averaging over 4 yards per carry, I say let him play.

No, the big difference in 2009 is that in 2008 at this point in the season, Portis had 30 more carries in 2008 after 6 weeks than he has in 2009. And last year at this point, everyone and thier grandmother already had Portis starting in the Pro Bowl. He had an awesome first half of 2008.

Now I know 2009 has been a less than desirable start, but, from what I see the Redskins have never been blown out, and they have never really been so far out of a game that they needed to abandon the run to play catch up, which in most cases is the 4th quarter anyway.

Keep feeding him the rock, and that will keep defenses honest and help the passing game out to boot.But Portis isn't anywhere close to where he was last year at this time in total value, when he was in the midst of a 5 game 120+ yards per streak. Also, 0.5 YPC isn't particularly close. And he has one rushing TD, despite ample opportunity.

Portis has actually been in decline since 2006, but behind an offensive line that played very well for 5 weeks at the beginning of last year, and defenses that were putting considerable resources to stopping the pass, he put together a really good stretch. At this point though, he's a grind em out power runner who doesn't really even finish his runs any more.

He's the best RB on the team, and still has considerable value, but he doesn't set up his blocks well, and he doesn't finish runs, and he fumbles. You can't argue that he deserves any more carries than he is getting.

I agree, but also think he is so out of shape that he was just too tired to make anything happen at the end of that run....he was GASSED!!!!

Okay, okay, :hater:, we get it already. Heard you the first time.

I dont like this topic. Offensive line is too big a factor for us to properly judge portis.

Take out the 78 yd run yesterday, and he's averaging about 3.5 YPA.

Take out the 78 yd run yesterday, and he's averaging about 3.5 YPA.Or truncate it at 30 (which would be a season high), and it's 3.8 YPA.

The other point, is that if Portis finishes that run, like every other No.1 back in the league would have, in the end zone: we probably win that game 10-9, or even 10-6. Is it Portis' fault that Collins threw three straight incomplete passes in the red zone? No it's not. But it's a big, glaring missed oppertunity in the open field, and plus, it's not a shock that none of our receivers were open in three consecutive plays.

Take out the 78 yd run yesterday, and he's averaging about 3.5 YPA.

Why do we need to take it out?

Why do we need to take it out?Because when you're doing a statistical breakdown to look at what a true average is, you often throw out statistical anomalies, like 78 yd runs. If you want to throw out his worst run, we'll throw out a -5 and Portis will still average about 3.5 YPA.

GTripp is much better at explaining the theories behind stats than I am, I'm sure he'll chime in.

Why do we need to take it out?I wouldn't recommend that you disregard it, it happened, and it happened because we blocked it well, Portis exploded through the hole and Kansas City tripped all over themselves down the field.

It also happened because he got that handoff from his own ten, and not the opponent's 40. A run where the running back gets to the safety level only has so much value, and shouldn't really be more valuable, IMO, if a RB is on his own ten versus the midfield stripe.

So, it seems easier to truncate the run to a realistic figure than to have to put an asterix next to the YPC figure every time we mention it until he hits 200 carries. What a realistic figure is, who am I to suggest it should be 50 or 30 or whatever. It should be whatever % of the downfield run Portis deserves for a run that he simply didn't finish.