Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher

I like Jeff Fisher. Great coach, better person. But that doesn't mean I want him here. I don't understand why we keep complaining that Snyder just goes after the big names...and then just talk about bringing in big names.

What we should do is find the next great coach (and it's not Zorn it seems). Maybe it's Brian Schottenheimer, maybe it's Jeremy Bates, maybe it's Kyle Shanahan, maybe it's Pete Carmichael, maybe it's Darell Bevell, maybe it's Rob Ryan...and so on

The danger of course is that it could backfire completely, but at this point why not take that chance?

We just tried this with Zorn. One things that is abundantly clear... Snyder is a poor judge of football talent...both coaching and players. He hasn't yet made a voila football talent decision. I guess you could argue that Schottenheimer was close but then he f'd that up by canning him after one year.

DS doesn't have the chops to make football decisions. We're going to have to get lucky in that he'll hire the right guy at GM and give him all the power to make the football decisions.

We just tried this with Zorn. One things that is abundantly clear... Snyder is a poor judge of football talent...both coaching and players. He hasn't yet made a voila football talent decision. I guess you could argue that Schottenheimer was close but then he f'd that up by canning him after one year.

DS doesn't have the chops to make football decisions. We're going to have to get lucky in that he'll hire the right guy at GM and give him all the power to make the football decisions.

Your last paragraph says it all............Case Closed.

Zorn was an odd chance to take. A 55 year old with no play calling experience. Meanwhile Kyle Shanahan is 29 years old and has been calling plays for a couple of years now

You know my friend screams on this guy all the time. But say that Danny feels that way too and he get's Kyle and then hires a GM. I'd be fine with it but wouldn't the masses still be upset ? It's lose lose for real but I think he'd be a pretty decent choice.

He's a recognizable name that's why his name will be brought up in discussions here. I want to see some other things happen before even considering the thought of who the next coach might be. Too much unfinished business.

I totally agree with you, and was going to post something to the same respect. I find it funny that every HC out there who may be on the hot seat or currently doesn't have a job because of being fired, "retiring", or being pushed out the door alla Mike Holmgren is a new discussion and thread on the forum.

1st thing first.. GM... period. I can't sit here and say whole heartedly that we will be successful with coach a or b without a new FO system in place that gets danny out of the cookie jar. Look I wanted our way of doing things to work. As did everyone else here, but at this point it is not going to. We can't over pay free agents and then bitch because we have no depth. We have no money to get ourselves any depth.

Also at this point we don't have anyone who can pick good talent. AND WE NEED A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO GET THE RIGHT TALENT AS WELL. We need guys that fit our "system". Which right now isn't very clearly defined. A WC passing attack mixed with an 80's running game? You know why we have this backwards ass offensive system in place. Because we don't have a clearly defined way of running the franchise. This is what happens when you hire an OC who is only installing a passing game and then turn the guy into the HC. Remember we kept Joe Gibbs running game. So Zorn is only using half of the WCO playbook. This is so stupid. This is why the offense sux so bad. Well among many other problems with this franchise. RETARDED VINNY. Come on, hire the whole staff then try and find a HC to fit around them? What HC worth a salt would have taken the job back in 08? None. Except for washed up Jim Fassel or Steve Mariucci? A couple of winners there huh? Well this is where we are and it is time to blow up Redskin Park's inner structure.

So I could really care less about Jeff Fisher. I want to know who the next GM is, and when he is going to start getting this thing turned around. No more band aids.

In case there was any confusion, I think Fisher is great and I wouldn't be upset if he was our next coach. I'm just saying I wish we could find our own Jeff Fisher is all I'm saying. I wish, for example, someone like Kirk Olivadotti could take over on an interim basis and then suddenly be here for the next 16 years (the same way Fisher was in Houston/Tennessee). That's all

You know my friend screams on this guy all the time. But say that Danny feels that way too and he get's Kyle and then hires a GM. I'd be fine with it but wouldn't the masses still be upset ? It's lose lose for real but I think he'd be a pretty decent choice.

What do you mean?

Add another vote to GM first, then HC. Until this team has a GM as fans we will have to suffer through mediocrity at best, or gut wrenching season like this. A winning franchise is going to require a GM to acquire the right 'talent' both in terms of players and coaches.

In this regard we are doomed since as pointed out in an earlier post in this thread Snyder has no football sense so even if he picks a GM, he will probably pick incorrectly.

I don't understand the love for all this guys Fisher, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Shottenheimer.

You're right, who would want something like this in DC? We're truly too good for it

He became the fifteenth head coach in Steelers history when he succeeded Chuck Noll on January 21, 1992 – but only the second head coach since the NFL merger in 1970. Under Cowher, the Steelers showed an immediate improvement from the disappointing 7-9 season the year before, going 11-5 and earning home field advantage in the AFC after the Steelers had missed the playoffs six times out of the previous seven years. In 1995, at age 38, he became the youngest coach to lead his team to a Super Bowl. Cowher is only the second coach in NFL history to lead his team to the playoffs in each of his first six seasons as head coach, joining Pro Football Hall of Fame member Paul Brown.

In Cowher’s 15 seasons, the Steelers captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles. It has become an article of faith among NFL pundits that the Steelers do not have a bad team two years in a row – they have never lost 10 or more games in consecutive years since the 1970 NFL merger. At the conclusion of the 2005 season, the Pittsburgh Steelers had the best record of any team in the National Football League since Cowher was hired as head coach.

On February 5, 2006, Cowher's Pittsburgh Steelers won Super Bowl XL by defeating the Seattle Seahawks 21-10, giving Cowher his first Super Bowl ring.

He never had a great QB either.

I highly Doubt Fisher is going anywhere. I was stationed in TN for a while and the ppl there love him. They would burn that bi%h to the ground. He has had bad seasons before and brought them back.

I don't understand the love for all this guys Fisher, Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Shottenheimer.

Gee I don't know, they've all won a lot of games in this league, are widely respected by their peers, and there's a few SB trophies scattered in there as well.

You can spin their success any way you want, at the end of the day they're successful and proven coaches.