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skinsfan69 11-10-2009, 09:40 AM Dude you're siding with another team's fan against your own team? Turn in your card.
oh please. so we can't call out our own guys when they act like little bitches? i don't blame smith cause he was defending his own guy. if that happened to jc and zorn grabbed another teams player and talked some shit everyone would be on zorn's jock.
Ruhskins 11-10-2009, 09:47 AM oh please. so we can't call out our own guys when they act like little bitches? i don't blame smith cause he was defending his own guy. if that happened to jc and zorn grabbed another teams player and talked some shit everyone would be on zorn's jock.
If Mike Smith was "defending" Matt Ryan then why did he go after Hall? Your way of thinking is just like Goodell, hold the coaches to a different standard than you hold players. I think Zorn would know better than not to act the way Mike Smith did. Do you think Joe Gibbs would do what Mike Smith did?
I am by no means defending Hall, and I'm sure he is to be blame with what happened as well. What upsets me is that everyone, including Redskins fans, like to pretend that the ATL bench was completely innocent. For all I care, the league can fine and/or suspend Hall, but Mike Smith and the other coach that was involved in the incident should be fined and/or suspended.
firstdown 11-10-2009, 10:04 AM Its really sad to see DeAngelo surrounded by the entire Falcon team and not one player from the defense comes over to help him or come to his defense. Just goes to show how f-ed up our locker room is.
I'm sure when they all started pushing most players thought it would be done as fast as it started. When it continued the team came to help him out and then the D line came running in to help Hall. This has nothing to do with our locker room.
If Mike Smith was "defending" Matt Ryan then why did he go after Hall? Your way of thinking is just like Goodell, hold the coaches to a different standard than you hold players. I think Zorn would know better than not to act the way Mike Smith did. Do you think Joe Gibbs would do what Mike Smith did?
I am by no means defending Hall, and I'm sure he is to be blame with what happened as well. What upsets me is that everyone, including Redskins fans, like to pretend that the ATL bench was completely innocent. For all I care, the league can fine and/or suspend Hall, but Mike Smith and the other coach that was involved in the incident should be fined and/or suspended.
It's baffling really how some seem to only be blaming Hall and are ok with Mike Smith as a coach who did nothing but add fuel to the fire. Amazing.
I'm sure when they all started pushing most players thought it would be done as fast as it started. When it continued the team came to help him out and then the D line came running in to help Hall. This has nothing to do with our locker room.
Once the incident starting getting ugly our guys went over. I agree this whole idea that our guys "didn't care" is garbage.
ashvirtually 11-10-2009, 10:39 AM It's baffling really how some seem to only be blaming Hall and are ok with Mike Smith as a coach who did nothing but add fuel to the fire. Amazing.Agreed.
Lotus 11-10-2009, 10:46 AM It's baffling really how some seem to only be blaming Hall and are ok with Mike Smith as a coach who did nothing but add fuel to the fire. Amazing.
Yes. D.Hall deserves some blame but Smith was way over the top of what is acceptable for coaches. Smith came close to a Woody Hayes moment.
over the mountain 11-10-2009, 11:45 AM When Hall charged into that sideline, that was the match, Landrys hit was the kerosene.
you have to watch the replay and keep your eye on hall before the hit. hall was chasing down the play, running hard. he was already on the sideline before the ish hit the fan. he never ran over or onto the falcons sideline.
sandtrapjack 11-10-2009, 11:56 AM Heres an interesting observation from Jerome Bettis off SI.COM
I see how the scuffle between Atlanta and Washington started. Matt Ryan got hit a little late on the sideline, and when you see that happen to the leader of your team you start thinking all of the worst things. No other single player has a bigger part in whether you win or lose. I know how much it scares you as a player, and so you want to retaliate. I get that. It's going to happen. Coaches understand that.
But you're entering a danger zone when you get involved as a coach, Mike Smith. Think about this in terms of war. When you see your general go to the line, all hands are on deck. Smith got into the fray and every single Falcon was there in a heartbeat. Fine. But what happens next time? All of a sudden, it's in the head of every one of those Atlanta players: When someone crosses our sideline or touches our quarterback late, it's on. And it can't be that simple. I don't think Smith should be punished, per se, but he needs to come out and say he went too far before his own players get the wrong idea.
Larry Johnson can still play, but will new NFL team step up? - Jerome Bettis - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jerome_bettis/11/09/week.9/index.html)
Ruhskins 11-10-2009, 12:00 PM Heres an interesting observation from Jerome Bettis off SI.COM
Larry Johnson can still play, but will new NFL team step up? - Jerome Bettis - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jerome_bettis/11/09/week.9/index.html)
I agree with Bettis, however I think the NFL should punish Smith. When he was asked about the situation, he flat out lied and made excuse for what happened. He should follow Bettis advice:
I don't think Smith should be punished, per se, but he needs to come out and say he went too far before his own players get the wrong idea.
Read more: Larry Johnson can still play, but will new NFL team step up? - Jerome Bettis - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jerome_bettis/11/09/week.9/index.html#ixzz0WTcKVSLy)
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