who stays? who goes?

Excellent analysis. I agree about Santana's being in his own world.

However, on offense I would trade Cooley. He is an outstanding player and it would be a loss, but he one of the few guys that we could trade for a good dividend of draft choices. And we can perhaps bring Davis along.

On defense I would hang onto Fletch one more year solely so that we can spend as many of our acquisition resources on offense as possible.

If there is a cap, moving D.Hall would create an unthinkable cap nightmare, no?

That's really the key to it. The cap situation changes the whole picture of who goes and who stays. If the cap is extended Hall would have to stay, but then looking at contracts for CP and ARL it would be awful painful to cut them under a cap too. I basically assumed no cap which gives us the most freedom. In fact at this point we have to pray for an uncapped year as Skins fans or the options are severely limited.

You're right about Fletcher Lotus. W/o him the defense suffers enormously unless we spend a very high draft pick for a MLB (which we all pretty much agree should be spent on a franchise OT) or Blades steps up big. There's no harm in keeping Fletcher another year :)

That's really the key to it. The cap situation changes the whole picture of who goes and who stays. If the cap is extended Hall would have to stay, but then looking at contracts for CP and ARL it would be awful painful to cut them under a cap too. I basically assumed no cap which gives us the most freedom. In fact at this point we have to pray for an uncapped year as Skins fans or the options are severely limited.

You're right about Fletcher Lotus. W/o him the defense suffers enormously unless we spend a very high draft pick for a MLB (which we all pretty much agree should be spent on a franchise OT) or Blades steps up big. There's no harm in keeping Fletcher another year :)

Good point.

Goes (one reason or another): Collins, Brennan, Betts (yep, my avatar), Ganther, Thomas or Kelly (literally an either or camp battle), Yoder, Samuels, Batiste, Randy Thomas, Will Montgomery, Rabach, Daniels, Griffin, Anthony Montgomery, Wynn, Henson, Smoot, Westbrook, Landry

Bring in: OT Trent Williams, LB Sean Weatherspoon or RB Anthony Dixon or CB Javier Arenas, OT Kyle Calloway or C J.D. Walton, RB Andre Anderson or RB Joique Bell, CB Sherrick McMannis, S Ryan Clark, NTs Fred Robbins or Aubreyo Franklin, WR Antonio Bryant, RB Kevin Faulk

No quarterback, reasoning: I like both Ryan Mallett and Christian Ponder. A lot.

I propose that the defensive hire for 2010 is someone versed in either the multiple defense, or a 3-4 coach. The reasoning is it looks like our personnel best fits a 3-4, as shown:

DL: NTs Haynesworth and Monty (or veteran replacement), DEs Lorenzo Alexander, Jeremy Jarmon, and Kedric Golston

LBs: OLBs Brian Orakpo and Chris Wilson (plus UDFA help), ILBs London Fletcher, Rocky McIntosh, and HB Blades

I really think with some changes this team can be a contender again, very soon. It really depends on the coaching staff that is hired and the type of schemes that they look to implement. For the coaching staff I am hoping we get Gruden and he keeps Sherm Lewis as the OC. Jerry Gray as the DC.

QB: Ties have to be cut with JC, I'm sorry but I really feel the front office has damaged this kid 2 much, he simply can not win in washington. Tod Collins hopefully will retire.Keep Colt, hopefully draft Tim Tebow in the second round and the Eagles cut Vick. We sign him. Sounds crazy but for me a player doesn't win 2 college championships by luck.
RB/FB: cut portis-i think he may have something left in the tank but he doesn't practice and sends the wrong message. Keep Betts, Rock and Sellers. Spend the money and sign Sproles. Making Rock, Betts, and Sproles as a 3 headed monster.
WR: Cut ARE keep everyone else. Hopefully with better qb play the recievers play better.
TE: keep all three, this position is a strength for us
Oline: Draft the top Tackle sign the top olineman that hit the freeagent market. I don't know who to cut because depth on the line is scarse in the NFL.

Defense keep the same.

I like that Vick under an new head coach, and Tebow learning for two years, with Sproles, the WR core and TE core, a new OL.... if we got these guys and wasnt a playoff team the next year, i donate a month check to a charity of the warpath choice........ I think in the draft i have to go after C.J. Spiller in the draft if he is available late 1st or 2nd round, Spiller, Sproles.... i keep Rock, cut Betts..... sign Vick to a two year deal.... opt. second year. I like this team already

I can't believe all the peeps saying get rid of both DT and MK. Patience people! No one is spectacular is this offense, so I think the jury still out on them.

It's so early for this without know who is going to be running things and what system we will be running.. The only thing I'd like to see regardless is that we get younger by moving on from Daniels, Wynn, R. Thomas and we need to start thinking about a replacement for Fletcher in next year's draft.

I propose that the defensive hire for 2010 is someone versed in either the multiple defense, or a 3-4 coach. The reasoning is it looks like our personnel best fits a 3-4, as shown:

DL: NTs Haynesworth and Monty (or veteran replacement), DEs Lorenzo Alexander, Jeremy Jarmon, and Kedric Golston

LBs: OLBs Brian Orakpo and Chris Wilson (plus UDFA help), ILBs London Fletcher, Rocky McIntosh, and HB BladesI like this idea alot. I don't see Orakpo as a 4-3 SAM, but he could be a monster as a 3-4 OLB.

some of the things u guys have said are ok, some are crazy ...

KEEP --
JC
Colt
Portis (better line, better offense, better portis)
Sellers -- get over the issues, the guy can play
Moss -- is STILL our best reciever.
Kelly
Thomas
M.Mitchell
Dock
Rhinehart
Heyer
Cooley
Davis
Yoder

happy trails -- please trade Betts and ARE in some sort of package. PLEASE
**bye bye rest of the line ... we need younger and some better vets.

Defense KEEP

Orakpo (ovbious)
Haynes
Alexander
Golston
Wilson
Jarmon
Rocky
Fletch
Blades
Carlos
Hall
Landry
Horton
Moore
Tryon -- seems to be improving.... it takes time especially at that position

bye - smoot, ur finished. andre carter, we kno u can p[lay but ur gettin too old, doughty... we need a higher level of play, more hunger, im not seeing it and ur bad angle tackling and slow coverage skills must go ... anyone i 4.got ... well ... that says it right there

don't know why you'd keep JC at this point. Portis really shouldnt be kept but his salary makes it impossible to move on him.