Brian Orakpo = Beast

Assuming Carter stays for next season, do you think it would be viable to have Orakpo line up opposite Carter? Have Orakpo play DE? Everyone's saying he'd be beast coming off the edge like that instead of LB. Because.. Well.. We know he stinks at coverage anyway. So why not let him blow up O-Lines all day?

I personally think it would be a mistake to make him one thing or the other. I would just like to see him play where we have him right now, just better. He's a great athlete with a great work ethic. We just might have a different animal in Orakpo.

That being said, I think/hope Carter stays. Is he a FA next year?

carter is not a fa for a long time. defer to the cap sheet

Without looking I thought he signed a 6yr/$30 mil deal.

if al davis is sniffing super glue and see's dhb run a sick forty time and drafts him about 20 spots early and throws everyone off, and then the bills take maybin ahead of orakpo, if you don't take orakpo then you better join in with davis and the super glue sniffing cause orakpo was definitely top ten talent

good point and well stated lol

Cant make everyone happy, all we heard last yr was we get no pressure. We go out and draft one of the best passrushers in the draft and ppl still bit&h.

I thought you guys wanted a defense like the Steelers? Thats all that was being said last yr and during the offseason. IF we had their defense we could win because the offense would get the ball more, well guys if you look at their D it is filled with 1st round picks. And yes their Oline is neglected as a result also.

I mean, its obvious, but I'll say it anyway; Haynesworth is the biggest reason that Orakpo and Carter have the sack numbers that they do. Obviously both are talented guys, both were high picks, but neither would be enjoying the type of success that they are this season without the big guy up front. Orakpo has gotten some nice pressure, while remaining a liability in coverage (though it does seem that they have tried to use him less in that role in recent weeks ... but that is anecdotal). I can't think of an instance when he made an absolutely "wow" play (though I am very likely overlooking something). He is solid, will have a good chance of winning DROY because of his sack numbers, but the "great pick" remains #92. Haynesworth is the guy that OC's have to gameplan around, Carter and Orakpo pick up the residuals.

I'd like to point out that D-line, and more specifically DE, was as glaring of a deficiency as O-line last offseason. Ppl forget how much we had neglected drafting DE's with first day picks until Orakpo. Skins fans had been calling VC an idiot for passing up on Ware and Merriman and a handful of other guys throughout the years. Two years prior to this offseason didn't our D-line have the worst sack total in NFL history for a season. Everyone was saying that though our D was good but we weren't getting TO's b/c the QB had all day in the pocket.

I realize we acquired AH in the offseason, but we also expected Randy Thomas to be back full-time along with recently acquired DD on the other side playing next to a would be healthy Chris Samuels. When Vinny made the BO pick I'm sure he thought he had upgraded the Offensive line enough, that his #2 picks from last year would help a 2nd-year-in-the-system JC out a little bit, and that with BO (and AH) we would be an elite defense. Unfortunately for him the rug got pulled out from under him in the offseason and early part of the regular season in terms of the O-line. Our defense has played well IMO but struggles when our Offense fails to put together drives. I'd love to point fingers at VC just like anyone else, but not picking Oher over BO is not something I can put on him. I think he made the best decision with the information available to him.

I'd like to point out that D-line, and more specifically DE, was as glaring of a deficiency as O-line last offseason. Ppl forget how much we had neglected drafting DE's with first day picks until Orakpo. Skins fans had been calling VC an idiot for passing up on Ware and Merriman and a handful of other guys throughout the years. Two years prior to this offseason didn't our D-line have the worst sack total in NFL history for a season. Everyone was saying that though our D was good but we weren't getting TO's b/c the QB had all day in the pocket.

I realize we acquired AH in the offseason, but we also expected Randy Thomas to be back full-time along with recently acquired DD on the other side playing next to a would be healthy Chris Samuels. When Vinny made the BO pick I'm sure he thought he had upgraded the Offensive line enough, that his #2 picks from last year would help a 2nd-year-in-the-system JC out a little bit, and that with BO (and AH) we would be an elite defense. Unfortunately for him the rug got pulled out from under him in the offseason and early part of the regular season in terms of the O-line. Our defense has played well IMO but struggles when our Offense fails to put together drives. I'd love to point fingers at VC just like anyone else, but not picking Oher over BO is not something I can put on him. I think he made the best decision with the information available to him.

Overall, I agree. However, what if a team picking 14-18 offered their 1st, and a 2nd as a trade. (Remember, Cleveland picked up how many picks?). Or even their first, and next years first, for our 13th. We could have traded down, gotten Oher, and depending on the other compensation, either more OLine help, another 1st rounder next year, or a different DE, who might have been good enough with AH and AC on this line as well.

I just think rushing up at the beginning of your time is silly, especially with a golden trading chip.

The reason I say that I hope Jarmon pans out is that he hasn't had enough opportunity + we are just 9 games into the season. In that context Rak has proven himself more than Jarmon which is why I say that I hope Jarmon pans out.

Like someone said earlier noone can predict injuries, so if our oline was healthy and our once weak link dline which is now a strength were both playing at a high level ppl would be praising our FO but because we lost some players to injury ppl want to question the RAK pick and call them idiots. If we had drafted Oher and passed on RAK it would have been the same as last yr when everyone was complaining that the Dline is not getting pressure and we dont get turnovers as a result. AH would be getting doubled and/or tripled and Carter would not be as effective without another rush presence from the other side. Its really a darned if you do darned if you dont scenerio, we had limited picks to fill alot of holes and i dont blame the FO for jumping all over RAK who many thought would be gone top 5 and passing over Oher who was said to be the 3-4 best tackle in the draft.