Report: Shanahan to DC done deal


Beemnseven
12-19-2009, 09:21 AM
My biggest problem with Shanahan is that he's clearly more interested in coaching again then he is in winning ever again. I'd rather he go play his games somewhere else than my team.

He'll bring in Bob Slowik to be our DC, and Kyle Shanahan to be our OC, and well, we won't have much by way of a coaching staff. I don't think we'll have much of an edge over other playoff teams. But he would correct the major flaw in our rushing attack without majorly overhauling the blocking schemes, and we'd never have to worry about having crappy QB play, because I don't think Shanny would ever trade in Campbell for someone markedly worse than Campbell.

I think a Mike Shanahan offense would be fun to watch, but ultimately, we'd still play most of our games on the margin, and just never be a great super bowl threat under him. I really don't think Shanahan is coming back to win another super bowl. I think he just enjoys coaching a lot.

Which is fine. It's great actually. But we're only going to go as far as our talent carries us, and we don't have very many GREAT players, especially on the offensive side. We have functional talent (and youth), at times, around a pretty good quarterback, who again, isn't a guarantee to be back. A defense coached by Bob Slowik may or may not be better than a Blache coached defense (I can't imagine it would be worse), but again, Shanahan builds around the concept of comfort, rather than excellence.

In other words, I can see why Danny and Shanny are a good fit.

Let me get this straight: You believe Mike Shanahan wants to coach again, but doesn't care about winning?

To clarify: I'm not saying that Shanahan doesn't want to win. I'm saying he won't do what's necessary to win, if his initial try doesn't work.

But he already knows what's necessary to win, because he's won. Your statement sounds like this is a guy who doesn't know what he's doing, is going to try something that hasn't worked before, and won't adjust if it doesn't work. But it already has worked with Shanahan.

Good grief. Some people are really reaching to find a reason to hate the man.

TheSmurfs22
12-19-2009, 09:44 AM
Is Shanny is in and CP is out do we look to FA for an RB or the Draft? I still think we need to use the draft to shore up the O Line.

CultBrennan59
12-19-2009, 09:53 AM
yes shanahan was the head coach when portis was there, and he drafted portis by the way in the second round. And just to make him look more appealing to us, he did trade portis for champ bailey and if you ask me he got the better part of that deal, cause a good running back is a lot easier to find than a shut down corner.

And I don't know what shanahan will do with portis but we have other proven backs, and a lot of running backs, even undrafed ones (mike bell of the saints now was with denver) have been able to run shanahans offense very well

Longtimefan
12-19-2009, 09:56 AM
Well Zorn did the best he could but it did not result in wins. I like the coaching staff we have now except Zorn is not head coaching material. If Gruden or Shanahan is not the next coach let Blache or Sherm Lewis get a shot at the HC positon. Didn't Shanahan draft Maurice Claret in the 3rd round?. That was a reach pick.

It's funny, they said the same thing about Joe Gibbs. A little known assistant that Bobby Bethard had to do a hard sell to keep Mr. Cooke from firing early in his first season. The last time I checked, Gibbs has a "B" in Canton, amazing what a little patience will do isn't it?

Beemnseven
12-19-2009, 10:10 AM
It's funny, they said the same thing about Joe Gibbs. A little known assistant that Bobby Bethard had to do a hard sell to keep Mr. Cooke from firing early in his first season. The last time I checked, Gibbs has a "B" in Canton, amazing what a little patience will do isn't it?

Chuck Noll was 1-13, 5-9, and 6-8 in first three seasons with Pittsburgh. So yes, there is something to be said for patience with head coaches. Could it be that Zorn just needs one more year to "learn" how to be a head coach? Maybe. But are we willing to wait for his on-the-job-training to be complete?

In this day and age, with the league structured the way it currently is, I just don't think you can do that.

Whether we're a team that needs to be blown up and rebuilt from the foundation up, or if we're a team on the verge that's just a player or two away, there needs to be a coach here with experience, and a track record of sustained success. I just don't think you can afford to bring Zorn back and hope that he's the guy who can do that.

BigHairedAristocrat
12-19-2009, 10:16 AM
Thanks for texting that in Smoot. So what are the chances shanahan is our next coach?

It sounds like nothing will happen until the seasons over. Three weeks is a long time for something bad to happen and screw everything up - like Dallas firing wade Phillips. Dallas worries me - franchise qb, good young running backs... And Shanahan allegedly would rather coach there.

And if things do fall through, what's snyders plan b?

WaldSkins
12-19-2009, 10:23 AM
Well Zorn did the best he could but it did not result in wins. I like the coaching staff we have now except Zorn is not head coaching material. If Gruden or Shanahan is not the next coach let Blache or Sherm Lewis get a shot at the HC positon. Didn't Shanahan draft Maurice Claret in the 3rd round?. That was a reach pick.

What has Blache done that has warranted a Head coaching job? Is it the way he turned Laron Landry into a dynamic FREE safety?

12thMan
12-19-2009, 10:29 AM
For what's it worth, I think Portis is gone. Big contract or not.

pg86
12-19-2009, 10:55 AM
well hopefully he'll still be good Monday then :p
Whoops u know what I meant..Hey Finals week has been hell!

jamf
12-19-2009, 10:59 AM
For what's it worth, I think Portis is gone. Big contract or not.


Shanny loves Portis.
I think we will see a rebirth of CP in the stretch running offense.

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