WaldSkins
12-22-2009, 05:21 PM
Id like to see our current RB's and Wr's play behind a revamped line before cleaning house at those positions. I still think Portis and Moss have value on this team.
Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants)WaldSkins 12-22-2009, 05:21 PM Id like to see our current RB's and Wr's play behind a revamped line before cleaning house at those positions. I still think Portis and Moss have value on this team. mlmdub130 12-22-2009, 05:45 PM Id like to see our current RB's and Wr's play behind a revamped line before cleaning house at those positions. I still think Portis and Moss have value on this team. i would like to see them compete for their jobs next offseason, but i don't think they have any right to their jobs i say it's open season and the top preformer gets the job GusFrerotte 12-22-2009, 11:59 PM All of the above. I don't know what to think about Jason coming back in. On one hand, no one can possibly say he's not a leader now. On the other, he definitely hurt his stock around the league in doing so. Or at least, I think he did. The leader bit is far fetched Gtripp. Sorry, but when folks were on the game thread last night were fawning over how he came back after he got dinged up and saying oh what a leader he was almost made me puke. The guy got dinged up, and was basically reduced to a rag doll most of the game, but unless you get really hurt you would obviously come back in the game. Another thing, this kid is auditioning for Allen. Do you think Allen is going to want to retain a pussy at QB that uses a minor injury to slink out of the game? It is advisable to retain JC for the next couple seasons til the newbies get up to snuff, but his future as a starter is probably going to end in 2011, if not sooner. ANd his newfound status as a "leader" is questionable at best. The kid doesn't quit that is for sure, but it takes more than not quitting to be a leader. Not quitting means he just did his job. GTripp0012 12-23-2009, 01:41 AM The leader bit is far fetched Gtripp. Sorry, but when folks were on the game thread last night were fawning over how he came back after he got dinged up and saying oh what a leader he was almost made me puke. The guy got dinged up, and was basically reduced to a rag doll most of the game, but unless you get really hurt you would obviously come back in the game. Another thing, this kid is auditioning for Allen. Do you think Allen is going to want to retain a pussy at QB that uses a minor injury to slink out of the game? It is advisable to retain JC for the next couple seasons til the newbies get up to snuff, but his future as a starter is probably going to end in 2011, if not sooner. ANd his newfound status as a "leader" is questionable at best. The kid doesn't quit that is for sure, but it takes more than not quitting to be a leader. Not quitting means he just did his job.Don't know if I agree, but this is well stated. GTripp0012 12-23-2009, 01:57 AM TC got hit every time he dropped back, even when he completed the pass to Moss.Yeah, Collins had eons on that play relative what Campbell was getting, and there was STILL and unblocked rusher that drilled him after the release. Moss made that play by running a route for the first time in the first half, gave Collins like five yards of seperation. Moss' effort over the course of a game is mind boggling. If he's not a primary part of the gameplan, he'll go and not get open for an entire half. Then out of nowhere, he'll run a sharp route and make a play. Then he mails it in for a quarter, and once the game is completely out of reach, he comes back and outworks everyone on the field. I don't get it. tryfuhl 12-23-2009, 02:05 AM TC got hit every time he dropped back, even when he completed the pass to Moss.alright thanks for the clarification seems like he still got the ball out though, right? tryfuhl 12-23-2009, 02:07 AM Yeah, Collins had eons on that play relative what Campbell was getting, and there was STILL and unblocked rusher that drilled him after the release. Moss made that play by running a route for the first time in the first half, gave Collins like five yards of seperation. Moss' effort over the course of a game is mind boggling. If he's not a primary part of the gameplan, he'll go and not get open for an entire half. Then out of nowhere, he'll run a sharp route and make a play. Then he mails it in for a quarter, and once the game is completely out of reach, he comes back and outworks everyone on the field. I don't get it. I'm just glad that people can see what's going on without being at the game. I think that I get too caught up in the excitement but I'm not really sure how you guys get a full picture when the camerawork is what it is. GTripp0012 12-23-2009, 02:08 AM alright thanks for the clarification seems like he still got the ball out though, right?Once. Collins came in, and got the requisite one decent route from Santana Moss. I thought he made a really nice throw to Davis in tight coverage, and I don't think Campbell makes that throw, but perhaps he should have moved through the progression to find someone more open. Collins did some nice things in like four passes, but all he ever seemed to do was throw to the primary receiver. I guess that's all you can really ask from your backup. GTripp0012 12-23-2009, 02:11 AM I'm just glad that people can see what's going on without being at the game. I think that I get too caught up in the excitement but I'm not really sure how you guys get a full picture when the camerawork is what it is.I don't think I'm saying anything that can't be verified by the coaches tape. This is who Santana Moss is. This is who he has been since 2007. And this is who he is going to continue to be. No one who watches the coaches tape is ever impressed by Santana Moss. He never "shows up" on film. tryfuhl 12-23-2009, 02:21 AM Once. Collins came in, and got the requisite one decent route from Santana Moss. I thought he made a really nice throw to Davis in tight coverage, and I don't think Campbell makes that throw, but perhaps he should have moved through the progression to find someone more open. Collins did some nice things in like four passes, but all he ever seemed to do was throw to the primary receiver. I guess that's all you can really ask from your backup. Seems like those were decent options and maybe the playcalling wasn't a big issue? I don't think that you can say a guy should cycle and find someone more open when his downfield options catch it. |
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