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Daseal 12-29-2009, 07:35 PM As far as trade down value, when was the last time you saw a top 5 pick traded? The amount a team has to give up is unreal.
I still really want Suh, but doubt it'll happen. Okung would be a great consolation.
Hail to the Redskins 12-29-2009, 07:36 PM The highest we can pick is 4th, that is if the Bucs, and Chiefs win. We would beat the Chiefs in SOS, but the Bucs with SOS tiebreaker v.s. us. We also hold the tiebreaker over the Browns, so if the season ended today we would have the #5 pick.
According to what I've found... our SOS is LOWER than both KC AND TAMPA....
so we'd have the 3rd overall pick.
Redskins Opp Win% - 44%
Chiefs Opp Win% - 51%
Tampa Opp Win% - 54%
Like I said... this COULD be pretty significant regarding trading down or getting Okung....
Dirtbag59 12-29-2009, 07:40 PM I'm telling guys. One of either two scenarios will play out. Either we will pick Bradford first and 2 or 3 offensive line prospects after him or we draft Okung and trade up from our second round pick to select McCoy, after which we will probably draft a few more offensive lineman. My money is on the Bradford scenario but either one is fine for me, even though I don't like 2nd round QB's.
redskins5044 12-29-2009, 07:43 PM According to what I've found... our SOS is LOWER than both KC AND TAMPA....
so we'd have the 3rd overall pick.
Redskins Opp Win% - 44%
Chiefs Opp Win% - 51%
Tampa Opp Win% - 54%
Like I said... this COULD be pretty significant regarding trading down or getting Okung....
i think im confusing myself, does it go off this years strength of schedule? also the team with the easier schedule drafts ahead of the team with the harder schedule? that makes no sense to me.
CultBrennan59 12-29-2009, 07:45 PM I thought head-to-head was the first criteria, then SOS??
I think it is
redskins5044 12-29-2009, 07:46 PM I think it is
not for the draft
Hail to the Redskins 12-29-2009, 08:31 PM i think im confusing myself, does it go off this years strength of schedule? also the team with the easier schedule drafts ahead of the team with the harder schedule? that makes no sense to me.
Yeah... look at it this way...
Team A: 4-12, opponents win % = 44%
Team B: 4-12, opponents win % = 54%
Which team is "crappier" and in need of the higher pick?
Team A obviously, because they played weaker teams and won only 4 games... Whereas Team B played relatively strong teams, so winning only 4 games makes "more sense"
GTripp0012 12-29-2009, 08:44 PM I'm telling guys. One of either two scenarios will play out. Either we will pick Bradford first and 2 or 3 offensive line prospects after him or we draft Okung and trade up from our second round pick to select McCoy, after which we will probably draft a few more offensive lineman. My money is on the Bradford scenario but either one is fine for me, even though I don't like 2nd round QB's.I think the second scenario is a likelihood. Before, when we were playing well, it looked like we weren't going to pick high enough to land Okung. Now, we could be picking third or fourth, and I'd imagine that only Suh, Clausen, and Berry would come off the board prior to our pick.
Lotus 12-29-2009, 09:41 PM i think im confusing myself, does it go off this years strength of schedule? also the team with the easier schedule drafts ahead of the team with the harder schedule? that makes no sense to me.
You got it right: For playoff berths, head-to-head play is important. For the draft it is unimportant outside of playoff teams, because draft position ties for non-playoff teams are broken down only by strength of schedule. So given the numbers listed above we would draft higher than KC or Tampa. I know the part about strength of schedule seems counterintuitive at first but it actually makes some sense. If your team and my team win the same number of games, yet your opponents were tougher (see strength of schedule), your team must be better. It's like a footrace in which we tie but you had farther to run, hence you must be faster.
Lotus 12-29-2009, 09:44 PM The rams are most definately selecting between Clausen and Okung.
Since the Rams took a tackle high last year, what makes you think that the Rams would take Okung before Suh or some other player?
I think drafting #3 puts Okung in much easier reach.
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